[nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Fri Jun 27 05:06:02 UTC 2014

LOL. And what did it do?

Nicole and Lexia 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D Keeler
via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 3:24 PM
To: Cindy Ray; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Cindy! You do that! Well, like i say, I interchange cane and dog often
enough so that I am usually pretty quick with iether. But, i also got up to
talking to mty cane once! Yep! I was leaving our gas station and I caught
myself telling my cane to find out.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Yes, I feel like something is missing; I don't really feel off balance. As
for talking to the cane, we probably shouldn't discuss that here. LOL.
Cindy

On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Yeah, that is hard. The hardest part of changing back from a dog to a 
> cane, for me anyway, well, there were two things. We won't talk about 
> not telling the cane it's a good boy. The first thing was always 
> feeling like I was weaving all over the sidewalk. The second thing was 
> feeling off balance. I literally felt like I was going to fall over at 
> any second for the first couple days. Once I hit my stride though, it 
> was all right and I stopped feeling like that. No mistake, you 
> definitely use different muscles when you walk with a cane vs. walking
with a dog.
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Sean Robertson via nagdu 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> And I'm having to do backwards, From a dog to a cane. Boy is that 
>> hard too. I have a bad rite rist, So using a cane hurts.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Brannan via nagdu" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Daryl Marie" <crazymusician at shaw.ca>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 12:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>>
>> I've said this in another post, probably several other posts, but the 
>> hardest thing for me to learn wasn't the mechanics of guide work. The 
>> mechanics are easy. This hand signal means that thing, and when you 
>> move your feet this way, it means this other thing, and when the dog 
>> stops or backs up or what have you.all that stuff was pretty easy by 
>> comparison to the hardest thing, which was learning to trust my dog. 
>> Being a cane user, and I'd say a *good* cane user, I was used to 
>> having all the control and making all the decisions. Pole? Walk 
>> around it. Check. With a dog, you have to let some of that go. And 
>> I've had to relearn this three different times.
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Daryl Marie via nagdu 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Clare!
>>> I am less than a year into working with my first guide, Jenny, and I 
>>> was a cane user for my entire life.  The tactile feedback is very 
>>> different from cane to dog, and I personally thought the transition 
>>> would be difficult; instead, I found myself freed from the feedback of
the cane.
>>> Even my best friend thought I would have a hard transition and was 
>>> surprised when I didn't.  Others will have different experiences.  
>>> The advice I can give here is to break down the feedback you receive 
>>> from your cane and think about what feedback you think is necessary, 
>>> and what you can do without.
>>>
>>> As for your dog's signals... all dogs will have different signals 
>>> that they use.  Trainers will know your dog and know some of their
signals.
>>> In the beginning, they will tell you that your dog is distracted, 
>>> focused, scrounging, etc., and you will learn in training and beyond 
>>> the signals your own dog will use.  I tend to second-guess Jenny 
>>> signals on locating thigns, because her body language is the same as 
>>> if she's diving toward something, so I act accordingly.
>>>
>>> You will make mistakes; this is normal!  Don't be like me an put on 
>>> yourself the unreasonable and stressful expectation of perfectly 
>>> understanding your dog as soon as you start training, or even in the 
>>> first few months.  You will both make mistakes, figure each other 
>>> out as you go... and when you both "get it", there's no better 
>>> feeling in the world!
>>>
>>> Daryl and Jenny
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Clare Westlund via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Sent: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:10:03 -0600 (MDT)
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>>
>>> afraid that I will miss something that the dog is trying to tell me 
>>> when off leash. Thank you all for your guidance and advice! Clare Hi 
>>> everyone! I am preparing to get my first dog next month and I had a 
>>> couple questions. I am nervous about the adjustment from working 
>>> with a cane two then using a dog? What was it like for you? I am 
>>> nervous that I will not understand what the dog is trying to tell me 
>>> when and and or out of harness? I don't want to interpret the body 
>>> language or mannerism of the dog in a bad way? Since I am totally 
>>> blind I am
>>>
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