[nagdu] Question about fenced in yards

Thu Mar 13 17:37:57 UTC 2014

Thanks everyone for the advice. I am still concerned somewhat because the closest town is a 20 to 30 minute drive from my home. While in school it's walking distance but at home I live in the middle of nowhere practically. So, I think working on off leash recall would be important for me. 

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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Raven,
> yes... 1-2 days a week during training we did work in different off-leash parks.  Jenny's recall is almost always perfect.  She will come to me on calling and tapping my leg; if she's further away, I have a whistle for her, and she comes to that.
> 
> For a dog that's as high-energy as Jenny, she needs to JUST RUN!  Since we don't have a fenced-in yard, our only option is to go to off-leash parks or visit friends who have fenced-in yards.  I have trained Jenny not to jump, even during play, even off-leash, so it would take a pretty serious act of disobedience for her to jump over a fence - I know she may have the inclination to do so, but she is not likely to want to.
> 
> I think it is important to work on off-leash recall.  Like Raven said, whether or not you are for or against off-leash parks, dogs need to know when to come when called.  If doggie gets out the door, what do you do?  Do you panic? Do you call  calmly?  Without having these skills, your dog may just enjoy the freedom and not listen when you call them.
> 
> Daryl and the Jenny girl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:07:19 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards
> 
> It seems to me that the Canadian guide dog schools do far more work
> and training with off leash recalls than the American programs do. I'm
> not even sure if any of the American programs focus on it. But I've
> heard from several of my Canadian friends who use dogs that the
> schools set aside time to work on off-leash recalls.
> Yes, have a fence put in, or find a place that is fenced in for
> playtime, or find a safer area altogether for play and free-running.
> No matter what, work on the off-leash recall.
> Personally, during the first month and a half of being home with my
> dog, I focused heavily on making sure his basic obedience was rock
> solid. We worked on ignoring food and other people, extended stays,
> and off leash obedience and recall. And it's a good thing I did. You
> don't ever expect things to happen, but they do. Your dog might slip
> out the door, you might drop your leash, or, like mine, your dog might
> even jump a fence. It's good training for both dog and handler because
> it teaches you both how to react in the instance of separation. Many
> people are prone to screaming their dog's name in panic or an angry
> voice. Then they wonder why their dog doesn't come to them, or takes
> forever to do so. It's important to work on the off-leash recall, and
> teach your dog to respond promptly and consistently. It's comforting
> to me to know that the sound of my snapping fingers brings my dog to
> me in an instant.
> 
>> On 3/13/14, Gary Steeves <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Yes, i am selective where i take bogart off leash.  We do go to off leash
>> parks that are fenced and when we go hiking he is usualy off leash, but on
>> hikes i'm with my girlfriend.  However, poodles are dogs that like to be
>> with there person will come back on their own accord. I had an expereince
>> early in our days together where i had been told of an unofficial dog park.
>> I realized i was in the wrong field and it was on the other side of the
>> residential stree. I was gong to leash bogart up when i got close tothe
>> corner but he saw a dog across the raod and went flying after it.luckily the
>> car turning left saw him but it scared me to death.
>> 
>> At my school they do practice recall first in the school, next in the court
>> yeard and lastly at the fenced off leash park we took the dogs to a couple
>> of times durin gour training.
>> 
>> Lastly, i'm not a big fan of flex leashes. If you're not around other dogs
>> thenmaybe but once you get a really long leash it is hard to know what is
>> betwen you the leash and the dog, especailly when they are excited. Around
>> other dogs they become a risk for the dogs not on a leash not seeing the
>> leash. It's like those people who let their dogs run free in the dog parks
>> with their leash draggchoking hazard for any dog, including theirs. Besides,
>> what's that teaching ones dog about pulling away from you when on leash?
>> Teaches them to run free whereas if bogart pulls away excitedly and i lose
>> the leash, he stops, even if he was about to go chasing something.
>> Apparently this wasn't as much tranied as who he is. :)
>> 
>> Gary
>> ing behjind tghem.   Could be a tripping
>> 
>> On March 12, 2014 5:13:04 PM PDT, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>>    None of the schools I know about, do a whole lot with off-leash
>>> recall. The fir4st school I attended did this in a park off a very busy
>>> street.
>>>    As for my personal opinion, especially if you don't have someone
>>> around to help bring back your wayward pup, I just wouldn't do it; your
>>> dog
>>> only has one life.
>>>    I was playing with a former guide in my front yard (unfenced)
>>> because WE DIDND'T HAVE A BACKYARD.  i THREW A Frisbee THAT WAS
>>> SUPPOSED TO
>>> GO UP TOWARD THE HOUSE.  Well, it didn't; all II could think of was to
>>> shout
>>> "no!" when she  began to run toward the street to get it.  I cried with
>>> relief that she stopped when requested.  No more chances like that for
>>> me;
>>> I'd have been devastated to lose a dog even though  I believed I was
>>> being
>>> careful.
>>> Darla & Handsome Huck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:34 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards
>>> 
>>> Danielle,
>>> 
>>> Early congratulations!
>>> 
>>> You can get a long, retractable leash for your pooch, which will enable
>>> him/her to have the space and freedom to be a dog, but not go so far
>>> onto
>>> the road that s/he gets hit by a car or into the pasture where s/he may
>>> not
>>> hear you and come back.
>>> 
>>> Jenny's doggie friend at the park has one of these.  he can run around
>>> and
>>> play and have a grand old time, but the leash ultimately keeps him safe
>>> from
>>> other dogs, can have the added bonus of making him come back, etc.
>>> 
>>> I wish I had a fenced yard for Jenny, also, but the park is the next
>>> best
>>> thing for her!
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Daryl and the inquisitive Jenny
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:19:10 -0600 (MDT)
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, everyone. I have just found out that Guiding Eyes may have found a
>>> good
>>> match for me. I am eriting on the final word from the instructor. I do
>>> have
>>> a question though. When I'm not at school I live at home with my
>>> parents. We
>>> live on a farm with a garden and pasture for cattle. We live right by
>>> the
>>> road with no sidewalks. Also, we do not have a fenced in yard. Should I
>>> keep
>>> my dog on a long leash while outside? We have 2 Austrailian Shepherds
>>> outside as well. I would like for my dog to have some time to be a dog
>>> with
>>> other dogs we have but I am worried about not having a fenced in area.
>>> Any
>>> advice would be appreciated.  Sent from my iPhone
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