[nagdu] Question about fenced in yards

Julie J. julielj at neb.rr.com
Thu Mar 13 19:27:30 UTC 2014


I do live in town, but like I said before my husband is a farmer.  I have a 
fair sized garden at the edge of one of the fields.  with the gardening and 
other assorted summer farming things, I spend a fair amount of time in the 
warmer months out in the middle of nowhere.  Targeting is an amazingly 
useful skill for your dog to have.  If the sun isn't bright I get turned 
around because of the lack of landmarks.  Monty is good at taking me to 
something familiar, the truck, the garden, machinery...from there I know 
where I am and can go where I want.

I, personally, think having a dog who can target objects well and who can 
work effectively without an obvious pathway is a must for country living.

Best of luck,
Julie




-----Original Message----- 
From: Danielle Burton
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:37 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards

Thanks everyone for the advice. I am still concerned somewhat because the 
closest town is a 20 to 30 minute drive from my home. While in school it's 
walking distance but at home I live in the middle of nowhere practically. 
So, I think working on off leash recall would be important for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Raven,
> yes... 1-2 days a week during training we did work in different off-leash 
> parks.  Jenny's recall is almost always perfect.  She will come to me on 
> calling and tapping my leg; if she's further away, I have a whistle for 
> her, and she comes to that.
>
> For a dog that's as high-energy as Jenny, she needs to JUST RUN!  Since we 
> don't have a fenced-in yard, our only option is to go to off-leash parks 
> or visit friends who have fenced-in yards.  I have trained Jenny not to 
> jump, even during play, even off-leash, so it would take a pretty serious 
> act of disobedience for her to jump over a fence - I know she may have the 
> inclination to do so, but she is not likely to want to.
>
> I think it is important to work on off-leash recall.  Like Raven said, 
> whether or not you are for or against off-leash parks, dogs need to know 
> when to come when called.  If doggie gets out the door, what do you do? 
> Do you panic? Do you call  calmly?  Without having these skills, your dog 
> may just enjoy the freedom and not listen when you call them.
>
> Daryl and the Jenny girl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:07:19 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards
>
> It seems to me that the Canadian guide dog schools do far more work
> and training with off leash recalls than the American programs do. I'm
> not even sure if any of the American programs focus on it. But I've
> heard from several of my Canadian friends who use dogs that the
> schools set aside time to work on off-leash recalls.
> Yes, have a fence put in, or find a place that is fenced in for
> playtime, or find a safer area altogether for play and free-running.
> No matter what, work on the off-leash recall.
> Personally, during the first month and a half of being home with my
> dog, I focused heavily on making sure his basic obedience was rock
> solid. We worked on ignoring food and other people, extended stays,
> and off leash obedience and recall. And it's a good thing I did. You
> don't ever expect things to happen, but they do. Your dog might slip
> out the door, you might drop your leash, or, like mine, your dog might
> even jump a fence. It's good training for both dog and handler because
> it teaches you both how to react in the instance of separation. Many
> people are prone to screaming their dog's name in panic or an angry
> voice. Then they wonder why their dog doesn't come to them, or takes
> forever to do so. It's important to work on the off-leash recall, and
> teach your dog to respond promptly and consistently. It's comforting
> to me to know that the sound of my snapping fingers brings my dog to
> me in an instant.
>
>> On 3/13/14, Gary Steeves <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Yes, i am selective where i take bogart off leash.  We do go to off leash
>> parks that are fenced and when we go hiking he is usualy off leash, but 
>> on
>> hikes i'm with my girlfriend.  However, poodles are dogs that like to be
>> with there person will come back on their own accord. I had an expereince
>> early in our days together where i had been told of an unofficial dog 
>> park.
>> I realized i was in the wrong field and it was on the other side of the
>> residential stree. I was gong to leash bogart up when i got close tothe
>> corner but he saw a dog across the raod and went flying after it.luckily 
>> the
>> car turning left saw him but it scared me to death.
>>
>> At my school they do practice recall first in the school, next in the 
>> court
>> yeard and lastly at the fenced off leash park we took the dogs to a 
>> couple
>> of times durin gour training.
>>
>> Lastly, i'm not a big fan of flex leashes. If you're not around other 
>> dogs
>> thenmaybe but once you get a really long leash it is hard to know what is
>> betwen you the leash and the dog, especailly when they are excited. 
>> Around
>> other dogs they become a risk for the dogs not on a leash not seeing the
>> leash. It's like those people who let their dogs run free in the dog 
>> parks
>> with their leash draggchoking hazard for any dog, including theirs. 
>> Besides,
>> what's that teaching ones dog about pulling away from you when on leash?
>> Teaches them to run free whereas if bogart pulls away excitedly and i 
>> lose
>> the leash, he stops, even if he was about to go chasing something.
>> Apparently this wasn't as much tranied as who he is. :)
>>
>> Gary
>> ing behjind tghem.   Could be a tripping
>>
>> On March 12, 2014 5:13:04 PM PDT, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>    None of the schools I know about, do a whole lot with off-leash
>>> recall. The fir4st school I attended did this in a park off a very busy
>>> street.
>>>    As for my personal opinion, especially if you don't have someone
>>> around to help bring back your wayward pup, I just wouldn't do it; your
>>> dog
>>> only has one life.
>>>    I was playing with a former guide in my front yard (unfenced)
>>> because WE DIDND'T HAVE A BACKYARD.  i THREW A Frisbee THAT WAS
>>> SUPPOSED TO
>>> GO UP TOWARD THE HOUSE.  Well, it didn't; all II could think of was to
>>> shout
>>> "no!" when she  began to run toward the street to get it.  I cried with
>>> relief that she stopped when requested.  No more chances like that for
>>> me;
>>> I'd have been devastated to lose a dog even though  I believed I was
>>> being
>>> careful.
>>> Darla & Handsome Huck
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:34 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards
>>>
>>> Danielle,
>>>
>>> Early congratulations!
>>>
>>> You can get a long, retractable leash for your pooch, which will enable
>>> him/her to have the space and freedom to be a dog, but not go so far
>>> onto
>>> the road that s/he gets hit by a car or into the pasture where s/he may
>>> not
>>> hear you and come back.
>>>
>>> Jenny's doggie friend at the park has one of these.  he can run around
>>> and
>>> play and have a grand old time, but the leash ultimately keeps him safe
>>> from
>>> other dogs, can have the added bonus of making him come back, etc.
>>>
>>> I wish I had a fenced yard for Jenny, also, but the park is the next
>>> best
>>> thing for her!
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Daryl and the inquisitive Jenny
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Danielle Burton <danielleburton94 at gmail.com>
>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:19:10 -0600 (MDT)
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Question about fenced in yards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, everyone. I have just found out that Guiding Eyes may have found a
>>> good
>>> match for me. I am eriting on the final word from the instructor. I do
>>> have
>>> a question though. When I'm not at school I live at home with my
>>> parents. We
>>> live on a farm with a garden and pasture for cattle. We live right by
>>> the
>>> road with no sidewalks. Also, we do not have a fenced in yard. Should I
>>> keep
>>> my dog on a long leash while outside? We have 2 Austrailian Shepherds
>>> outside as well. I would like for my dog to have some time to be a dog
>>> with
>>> other dogs we have but I am worried about not having a fenced in area.
>>> Any
>>> advice would be appreciated.  Sent from my iPhone
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