[nagdu] Hypothetical Situation

[Larry D. Keeler]

A tragic accisent. The dog was maybe a year old.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hypothetical Situation


> Was the dog aggressive (had been taught to fight) or was this a tragic
> accident?
> My retired guide dog went to live with my parents. She had some health
> problems which they were trying to treat. One day they left the retired 
> dog
> alone with their dog, and their dog killed my retired dog. Interestingly
> enough, my sister's pit bull was also there, and did not get involved.   I
> don't want to go into how we know this, but believe me, the evidence was 
> not
> pleasant.  And yes, my dad put his dog down the next day. That's really 
> all
> you can do.
>
> Believe me that day was horrible. My dad called to tell me what had
> happened. I knew something was very wrong because he called when I was
> giving my then toddler a bath. He never called during that time. He also
> insisted I get my husband, something he didn't even do when my grandpa 
> died,
> or when my sister had been rushed to the hospital and was on life support
> after a very serious auto accident. When my dad called to tell me about
> Jersey, he was crying so hard and was so incoherent, I thought he was 
> going
> to tell me my mom or sister had died in some sort of accident. I have 
> never
> seen my dad cry like that before or since. I hope I never do again.
> My parents' dog was a mutt, one they got at a chicken auction. She was a
> puppy when they got her and hadn't been aggressive before. I've read how
> dogs will kill an injured member of the pack. I'd just never seen it 
> happen
> until that day.
> Larry, I wouldn't worry about this unless you know for a fact that someone
> is training dogs to be aggressive. Some things are just tragic accidents.
> "Would have, could have, should have" don't help after the fact.
> Your friend's boyfriend probably feels a lot of guilt over what happened. 
> I
> wouldn't cause him any more pain. I also wouldn't encourage legal action.
> What would be gained?  And for those of you still with us, my sister is 
> ok.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:11 AM
> To: doggie
> Subject: [nagdu] Hypothetical Situation
>
> Well, this inquiry is based on a true situation. However, the dogs 
> involved
> were not service dogs. A friend of mine had a really mellow black lab. Her
> boyfriend got a pit mix. They left the 2 dogs alone after a couple of 
> months
> and the pit mix basically killed the lab. The dog was put down. What got 
> me
> thinking is that one of the folks involved got a guide dog. I started
> wondering what if her boyfriend wanted another aggressive dog and 
> something
> happened like that again. Who would be responsible for the loss of the 
> dog.
> Sence she is a new handler, she is still not the dogs owner. This she is 
> ok
> with. And, I don't think they will get another dog iether. I was just
> thinking what a mess it could be if you had a partner or spouse who got an
> aggressive dog and who would ultimately be responsible for in effect the
> damage of school or perhapse your property. If the other dog was attained
> after the service dog was, I'd think it would complicate issues. Of 
> course,
> I know that you can ask questions and get help from schools if you already
> have a pet. I did. But, I know folks might forget or think its none of 
> there
> schools buisness whether or not they get another pet. I'm sure that if the
> dog is yours then you could file a claim against your partner but how many
> folks would do that and, if you aggreed to let them bring a new dog in, 
> I'd
> think you would share the responsibility. However, if the school still had
> ownership, who would be charged ans would they the student or partner have
> to pay? Or, could a school refuse to train the person with a second dog?
> just food for thaught. I'm a curious guy, what can I say!!
> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
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