[nagdu] GDB time-out

Wed May 7 14:04:06 UTC 2014

Oh, I think that you have an arsenal of things that will work. Let’s say, for instance, a high collar correction. You might use it sometimes, but you don’t use it probably at a time when people are going to misinterpret it. I think it is not so different from having children. You correct them for what they are doing wrong and you do it consistently, but you have plans for corrections and/or punishments that work in given situations.

CL

On May 7, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:

> Hi Howard.
> I thought about that, walking through midtown Manhattan yesterday.  There were places we couldn't have stopped, but other places we could, if I'd stepped to the side.  I was going to give the timeout a try, but Benny was a very good boy.  He must be getting over spring fever, the extreme sniffiness that seems to come when it first gets warm.
> Tracy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB time-out
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> 
>> How would time out work in busy city like New York on a busy side walk. This
>> may work in theory on class but but would not work in rush hour on a busy
>> side walk you would be run over. Time out is not going to work in a city
>> like New York, guide dog nust be able to handle the real world and you need
>> to move on you just can't stop any old place and say I need a time out for
>> my guide dog the public is not going to under stand and you night get hurt.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 12:12 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDB time-out
>> 
>> Hi Sherry.
>> I think you and I are coming from the same place--longtime dog users, a bit
>> skeptical of these newfangled ideas, but willing to give them a try.
>> I think I'll try this time-out thing on my way home today.  I may get ten
>> people asking me if I'm OK while I stop and become a tree, but I'll be
>> interested to see how it goes.
>> Thanks for sharing.
>> Tracy
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> 
>>> We also use the time out if the dog gets distracted in the field. To
>>> my surprise, it really works. I was quite skeptical of the concept
>>> till I tried it. All my dogs have been pretty easy to manage, and I've
>>> tried the verbal correcting thing with her, just a simple, no hop up.
>>> but the time out works better. and pretty much every time, after the
>>> ten seconds are done and I pick up the harness and say forward, off we
>>> go. Once the dog moves past whatever distracted it, we generally halt
>>> and praise and feed, or in the case of my dog, praise and love up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 6:08 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] GDB time-out
>>> 
>>> I've been reading Sherry's GDB training journal with great interest.
>>> She mentions something I never heard of before that they call a
>>> time-out.  If I understand correctly, when the dog, for instance, is
>>> not heeling properly, the person stops, holds the leash near the
>>> collar to keep the dog out of mischief, and stonily ignores the dog
>>> for 10 seconds.  This bums the dog out, and he resolves to do better.
>>> Have I got it right?  Is it used in other places, besides heeling?
>>> Have people found that it works?
>>> I'm thinking I might give it a try, when Ben is feeling sniffy.  He
>>> likes to keep boogying down the road; stopping and doing nothing might
>>> be an effective correction. Ben couldn't care less if I ignore him,
>>> but I could see how it might affect a softer dog.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
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