[nagdu] guide dog school problem

Darla J. Rogers via nagdu nagdu at nfbnet.org
Tue May 20 21:26:44 UTC 2014


Dear Darrel and others,

	What? Do people--and this is rhetorical--actually think our dogs can read the bus numbers?
	People are quite interesting, at time, and downright frustrating at others.
Darla & Hardworking Huck who had a perfect eye exam


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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie via nagdu
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 10:19 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem

>From what I understand of Rebecca's previous posts, the grace period is the length of time it's "acceptable" to make mistakes and figure things out as you go along.  With newborns, it is normal that when your baby cries, pukes, gets cranky, whatever, sometimes there's NO reason at all, or you're "allowed" to figure it out (is he teething? needing a nap? Diaper-change? Hungry?)  Perhaps the reason for the "grace" period is because every single other people who's cared for a newborn can relate to it, and as the child grows older they grow up and stop having certain challenges, but then you move on to others, which are understandable by society, etc.

With a dog, if they misbehave, make errors in judgment, etc., the perception I have been given is is that she's not trained.  We stand at a bus stop, she automatically stands and goes to the bus (even if it's not ours).  I tell her to sit, she gets frustrated, and I have to repeat myself once.  A passerby asks "oh, you're still training her?"
Minor example, but there ya go.

Daryl
----- Original Message -----
From: Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:06:49 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem

Rebecca, I agree with you about the analogy of dogs to children, but I don’t understand what you said about the difference in the grace period is stunning.

CL

On May 16, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Because I've had both and the differences in the grace period you get 
> from the outside world is stunning.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole 
> Torcolini via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 7:35 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> Rebecca,
> 
> Why do you always compare guide dogs to children?
> 
> Nicole
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 15, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Add to this that people will expect your dog to be a fully functional 
> guide, and you to be a fully functional handler.
> You don't have that dynamic in play when you get a puppy. 
> I've said it before, and I'll say it now, having a new baby is easier 
> then getting your first guide dog.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:03 AM
> To: Name, Full
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> Well said, and very good point. 
> To me getting a new guide is like getting a new puppy, you have to 
> take time to get to know each other, how each other works and there 
> needs. You need to bond, and the dog needs to know that you are one he 
> is to work with, and not every other person who comes by. the big 
> thing I believe is that the dog needs to know that you are the boss, 
> and not to pay attention to everyone else.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Name, Full" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:35:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school problem
> 
> John,
> 
> A couple of things. First, some of the things that you are telling us 
> are not making sense and are contradicting each other. What exactly 
> has happened, in order, with applications and acceptance?
> Second, if there is a possibility that you might go to get a dog in 
> August, you really need to stop and think this over more. Yes, things 
> that cannot be avoided happen, and colleges make exceptions, but I 
> feel that this is different. You cannot miss four weeks of a class and 
> still pass it, at least not with a half way decent grade, unless it's 
> a class where there is only one class a week with a really light work 
> load. Even if you can retake the class, do you really want to have to? 
> Retaking a class often means paying
> 
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