[nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport
Kristen via nagdu
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Thu May 29 12:44:07 UTC 2014
Michael--
You're right in that most dogs can hold it longer than we think,
and Corvette is still young. I try to get him to eat/drink before
leaving for a trip, so it will last him a while. He tends to go
on a hunger/water strike for a couple days at any new place until
he becomes used to his new environment.
--
Kristen
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From: Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org
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Date sent: Wed, 28 May 2014 21:15:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport
Even so, you can cut down water in the afternoon/evening before a
night
trip. The dogs do fine with this.
Best,
Michael Hingson
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha
Dudley via
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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 08:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport
I will be headed to Seatle on Sunday and don't intend to relieve
Dallas
while I'm in the airports. Once we get to our destination,
absolutely, but I
cannot stress about finding a relief area before we get on the
plane or
immediately after we deplane. I was taught a lot at TSE about how
to prep my
dog for a trip like this. I will, however, be relieving Dallas on
the way
back because we have a layover in Detroit and will be taking a
red eye jet
home at 11 Pacific time, so I'll try to keep him as comfortable
as possible.
Speaking from a physiological perspective, dogs' bodies, and out
own, in
fact, are obviously more active when awake. So, while it is
possible for a
dog to hold its bladder for long periods of time, that time is
shrunken if
the dog is awake, because its body needs more nutrients and its
kidneys are
more active when awake.
JMT,
Aleeha and Dallas
On 5/28/14, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
I almost never relieve my dogs on a trip. We do much as Michael
has
stated.
Cindy
On May 28, 2014, at 9:19 PM, Michael Hingson via nagdu wrote:
Hi Kristen and all,
Go in a regular bathroom? It does sounds as if someone in
Denver
needs some educating.
It is not the responsibility of anyone else to take your dog
outside
to relieve. One possible option would be to take you outside
inside
the security area, but there may or may not be people to do
this, and
the kind of area on which your dog is use to relieving may not
be
available.
I think it is appropriate to make one additional observation.
In my
experience most guide dog schools discuss preparing to take a
dog on
a trip.
We discuss with instructors how to cut down on water before
traveling.
We
are also told that it might be wise to not give our dogs a meal
before traveling if the dog is prone to needing to relieve. All
this
is to say that with proper preparation a healthy dog should be
able
to go six to eight hours without relieving.
We can make life more stressful by assuming that our dogs need
to go
out at every stop. By doing this the dogs come to expect the
trip
out and we get upset when we can't take our dogs outside to
relieve.
I have taken several guide dogs on long trips without any need
to
relieve, but I worked to train the dogs to expect this and I
helped
by insuring that their bladders and other parts were as empty as
possible before leaving home or by taking advantage of a
relieving
area at the airport before going through Security.
As one instructor put it to me once, "keep in mind that your
dogs
sleep through the night and so they can go long periods of time
without relieving if you set the stage". Let me be clear. Some
dogs
may have health issues and do need to relieve more often.
However,
the average dog can go for fairly long to very long times
without the
need to relieve. I have taken dogs to New Zealand, Korea, Japan
and
the Netherlands without any stop to relieve. I travel across the
United States several times a month and never look for a relief
area
during a lay-over except to know where they are if available in
case
of a future emergency.
You must do your part and you must instill confidence in the dog
and
yourself, but it can be done. I hope my thoughts help.
Best,
Michael Hingson
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Kristen
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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 02:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
I did have an issue with that airport about a month ago. We had
a
layover there, and they told us that we wouldn't be able to get
past
security after taking Corvette outside (they had no inside
area) and have time to make our flight. They also didn't offer
to
take him out for me and said that he should hold it or be able
to go
in a regular bathroom. (He did end up holding it for about 6
hours
that day.) Maybe you'll have better luck!
--
Kristen
----- Original Message -----
From: sheila via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org
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<nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 28 May 2014 14:34:36 -0600
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
okay that is good. I won't borrow trouble. I've never had
trouble in
other airports so I'll assume that I won't and just handle
things if
they come up.
On 5/28/2014 2:06 PM, Sherry Gomes via nagdu wrote:
I just flew in and out of Denver when I went to and returned
from
GDB. I was never put in any separate sort of room. I had some
trouble with ground assistance on the return but that was only
with
one person.
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sheila via
nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 PM
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Subject: [nagdu] denver airport
denver airport has anyone had any
trouble when
flying out of the denver airport as far as being put is a
separate
room instead of near or at the departing gate?
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sheila leigland
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