[nagdu] really cold was wearing a harness.

Wed Nov 12 16:36:13 UTC 2014

Julie,

Do you have boots for her? Holding the foot up could mean her feet are 
cold or that the hard ground is hurting them or something like that. Her 
pads may not be all that tough yet, so she may need added protection there.

Otherwise... Perhaps using a lot of positive reinforcement on shortened 
walks and building up as she gets used to dealing with the cold?

The wind may be a factor, too, for her weight and build. Mitzi has kind 
of learned to deal with the heavy winds here by moving with them, but 
she gets picked up and blown around every now and then. On one special 
occasion where there was ice under us, we were both getting blown away, 
in different directions because of how the wind gusts around this 
valley. I think her curls may give her some added lift Jetta doesn't 
have, but the poodle and dobie builds are similar.

I'm wondering how Loki will do in wind. He's going to be more like 75 or 
80 pounds so have more mass to hold him to the ground, but he's still 
got that aerodynamic poodle build, so may just have proportionally more 
lift. Happy thought... Not! /lol/

Can't think of anything else, and you may have thought of most of it 
already. But it's what came to mind. Good luck!

Tami

On 11/12/2014 02:28 AM, Julie J. via nagdu wrote:
> Darla,
>
> It's 14 right now and the wind is blowing like mad, but I don't know
> what the wind chill is.  Jetta shivers violently when I take her out.
> She has a coat and it helps, but she hates to go out.  I'm not exactly
> sure what I'm going to do.  Yesterday Sidney and I took the dogs for a
> walk.  Jetta did really well for about 10-15 minutes, then she just
> stopped and held her foot up and would not continue.  Sidney carried her
> home and I had Monty leash guide...yet another reason why leash guiding
> is handy.
>
> If anyone has any thoughts on how to help Jetta in the cold are really
> appreciated.  She is a Doberman.  She does have a coat and I sewed in an
> extra layer of fleece for a liner, so it's about as warm as I can make
> it. I have the rubber balloon like boots, which she is fine with
> wearing. Please don't suggest that I don't take her out in the cold.  It
> will be cold until April and not working her for that long is
> unrealistic.  I can take Monty part of the time, but I need to find a
> cold weather solution for Jetta.
>
> Thanks,
> Julie
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Darla
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:42 PM
> To: 'Julie J.' ; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users'
> Subject: RE: [nagdu] wearing a harness.
>
> Hi Julie,
>
> Hahahahahahahahahahahaha; I guess you, Rox'e, Raven and a few more of us
> will keep the guide dog police busy.  A harness does not a guide dog make,
> and frankly, I wish all the schools worked a little bit with leash guiding
> because you never know when you may need it.
>
> There are probably a good number of us that practice this sort of thing in
> areas we know well, at first, because we know there are times--such as the
> ones you described--where leash guiding works better,
>
> But it does take some practice.
>
> With laughter,
> Darla & Happy Huck
>
> P.S.  How cold is it in your neck of the Plains?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J. via
> nagdu
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] wearing a harness.
>
> I do use leash guiding in certain circumstances.  Just recently I used it
> when at a hotel.   My room was just across the hall from the door outside.
> So from my hotel room door to the relieving location was no more than 20
> feet.  Leash guiding worked very well and yes it was in public and yes
> there
> were other people and no, he wasn't a sniffing jumping maniac.  My dogs act
> just the same in or out of harness.
>
> The second time was when at a business luncheon.  The food was self service
> from a buffet line.  I had a plate of food and a drink.  I looped the leash
> over my forearm and followed Monty.  I could feel which way to go with that
> small amount of info.  Not something that would work very well in most
> circumstances, but at the moment it was the best I could come up with.  And
> before everyone suggests that I could have gone back for the drink or asked
> for help, yes, I know, but I was at a business lunch  and sometimes there
> are subtle social things going on that you have to account for.
>
> And just because I'm in a outspoken mood, you get the bonus confession!
> Aren't you excited?  I fed Monty a bit of my banana at a business
> conference
> on our break right in front of other people and right next to the table.
> the number for the guide dog police is: 1-900-555-1234.  I thought I'd save
> you the time of looking it up because I know there are folks who want to
> turn me in to someone.
>
> Leash guiding, no harness in public, people food...what next?  It's anarchy
> for sure.
>
> Julie
>
>
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