[nagdu] crate vs tie-down

[Nicole Torcolini]

Like many other things, such as head collars, both crates and tie downs do
not teach the dog not to do certain things, but, sometimes, for the sake of
safety and sanity of all involved, they are necessary. Most dogs come to a
point where they no longer need a crate or tie down nearly as much. They
grow out of their bad habits. Also, whenever a dog enters a new environment
with new people and new objects, the dog may regress in certain things.
	I think that crates and tie downs both have their uses as well as
their pros and cons. I am comfortable with using a tie down if there are
people close enough that someone would notice if something went wrong. If I
had to leave Lexia alone on a tie down, I would prefer that it not be for
more than an hour.
Tie downs are convenient in that they can be rolled up and taken anywhere.
You can move them around the house as needed. Other people can still
interact with the dog while on tie down. Some dogs have a hard time not
getting tangled up in tie downs. People and animals interacting with the dog
while on tie down can also be a bad thing. I am not a fan of leaving a dog
tied up by the collar for any extended length of time, regardless of what
type of collar is used. If I ever had to leave Lexia on tie down for an
extended length of time, I would probably use some kind of harness. The
object to which the tie down is secured has to be very heavy and firm as
dogs are very strong and, especially if wearing a harness, could probably
easily move a couch or table a foot or more.
Depending on the type of crate, crates can be cumbersome in that they take
up space and cannot be moved, especially for larger dogs. However, as
already mentioned, there are several options for collapsible crates. If used
correctly, a crate can be a good thing, especially if there are other people
and animals in the house from which a dog may wish to get away. The crate is
the dog's space. Lexia has a cloth folding crate. I don't usually have it
set up. When I do have it set up, if I leave it open, she will go lay in it,
even if there is another place for her outside of the crate.

Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:23 PM
To: 'Tracy Carcione'; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] crate vs tie-down

I think I would prefer to use a combination. I have always done the leash
thing for the time requested with only a few days' different sometimes, and
I think this is good, but a crate gets them clear out of the line of
activity so to speak and make it easier.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: [nagdu] crate vs tie-down

I am well aware that discipline is my problem.  It just seems to me that my
dogs who grew up with tie-downs had a better understanding of how they
should behave when not confined than crate-trained Krokus.  Now, that might
be luck, or poor memory, or just that they weren't confined a lot so learned
how to behave themselves.
Whatever, Krokus is beginning to remember the house manners I'm sure he used
to know, or getting the idea that I don't want him picking up everything.
I've ordered a crate, even though I don't really want one.  I can use it
when I can't supervise him, until he settles.  Then I can fold the stupid
thing away except for the odd occasion I might need it, like if I have to
leave him home alone.

He did not pick up things much at TSE, and was usually free in my room, but
my room there was much more spartan than my house, which has a few low
tables or shelves with stuff on them. Shocking, I know.
Tracy



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