[nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
Brett Sample
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Sat Nov 29 15:36:07 UTC 2014
I thought that too Julie? Some people won’t like what I have to say, but, here goes. When people use emotional support animals, such as a pig or monkey, other people think of it as a “Service” animal and because of that it can cause problems for everyone. I think it might be time to update the ACAA and FHA to reflect the ADA.
Brett
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Okay folks, it's stupid question time...
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> If a person has a mental or emotional condition so serious that an emotional support animal is necessary, why then would the person choose a pig? She has to know that a pig is going to cause people to ask a lot of questions and create drama where ever she goes.
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> Julie
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> Subject: [nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
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> Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley International Airport, only to
> learn it couldn't fly
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> By Dwight B. Shepard | dshepard at repub.com
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> November 28, 2014
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> Source:
> http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/passenger_with_pig_boards_fli
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> You've heard the expression, "when pigs fly" haven't you?
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> It's is an adynaton, or, a figure of speech, if you will, so hyperbolic that
> it describes an impossibility. It's used for humorously, when someone wants
> to make fun of over-ambition.
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> But a passenger at Bradley International Airport, in Windsor Locks,
> Connecticut, wasn't kidding when she boarded a US Airways flight with a pig
> in tow.
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> Jonathan Skolnik, a professor at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst
> told ABC News he thought the woman with the pig was carrying a duffel bag
> when she got on the plane.
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> Skolnick, a passenger on the plane, became quite concerned when the woman,
> and her pig, headed straight for the empty seat next to him.
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> "But it turns out it wasn't a duffel bag. We could smell it and it was a pig
> on a leash," he told ABC. "She tethered it to the arm rest next to me and
> started to deal with her stuff, but the pig was walking back and forth."
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> "I was terrified, because I was thinking I'm gonna be on the plane with the
> pig," Snolnik added, saying he guesses the pig weighed between 50 and 70
> pounds.
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> Another passenger on the flight commented on ABC's website, "This was the
> most surreal flying experience of my life. How are animals of this size
> allowed in a passenger compartment of an airplane? This should not be
> permitted."
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> According to Britain's Daily Mail newspaper, the woman had the pig as an
> emotional support animal, but was asked to leave the plane after it became
> disruptive.
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> The Department of Transportation has certain guidelines concerning animals,
> including pigs, monkeys and miniature horses, that can be taken on flights
> if they are determined to be needed as emotional support for a person. TSA
> officials are supposed to determine whether the animal is permitted on the
> plane by running through a list of guidelines, the newsaper reported.
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> "Pigs are favored service animals for people allergic to dogs," the Daily
> Mail wrote. "Guidelines suggest they are intelligent companions and attuned
> to dangerous situations."
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> According to a 2012 CNCNews.com report, airlines must let passengers fly
> with pigs if they are for such emotional support. The department published a
> manual in July of that year designed to "help carriers and indirect carriers
> and their employees/contractors that provide services or facilities to
> passengers with disabilities, assist those passengers in accordance with"
> the Air Carrier Access Act.
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> Here is a scenario described in the manual.
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> "A passenger arrives at the gate accompanied by a pot-bellied pig. She
> claims that the pot-bellied pig is her service animal. What should you do?"
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> "Generally, you must permit a passenger with a disability to be accompanied
> by a service animal," reads the manual. "However, if you have a reasonable
> basis for questioning whether the animal is a service animal, you may ask
> for some verification."
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> The manual instructs airline carriers and their employees to begin by asking
> questions about the animal's training and what service it performs for the
> individual.
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> "If you are not satisfied with the credibility of the answers to these
> questions or if the service animal is an emotional support or psychiatric
> service animal, you may request further verification," the guidebook states.
> "You should also call a CRO [Complaints Resolution Official] if there is any
> further doubt as to whether the pot-bellied pig is the passenger's service
> animal."
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> If the answers are satisfactory, pigs, which can weigh as much as 300
> pounds, must be accepted aboard the plane.
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> "Finally, if you determine that the pot-bellied pig is a service animal, you
> must permit the service animal to accompany the passenger to her seat
> provided the animal does not obstruct the aisle or present any safety issues
> and the animal is behaving appropriately in a public setting," the manual
> states.
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> So, I guess, some pigs can fly.
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> I';m confused. Where was the plane taking off from? Did the plane leave
> with the pig on it, when was she asked to leave the plane?. I thought they
> lived in Florida? How did the pig get to Bradley? HELP
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> The Department of Transportation has certain guidelines concerning animals,
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> Right now there's no licensing needed, someone just has to state they have a
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> Airlines should have special areas for passengers with service animals -
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> The dumbing down of America by some stinks. Can the pig fit in the rest room
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