[nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
Joe
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Sat Nov 29 21:19:34 UTC 2014
I don't know. I think a monkey would be kind of neat. LOL Seriously though. I think people often run well past the definition of what is considered an emotional support animal. They make it that much more difficult for people who seriously need a standard service animal. I'm kind of the opinion, and I get I'll be the minority here, that if you need an animal around you to keep you on the rails, you probably need more medication for everyone's general safety more than you need a nuisance animal that makes it harder for people with seeing, hearing and seizure disabilities to access public establishments.
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brett Sample via nagdu
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:36 AM
To: Julie J.; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
I thought that too Julie? Some people won’t like what I have to say, but, here goes. When people use emotional support animals, such as a pig or monkey, other people think of it as a “Service” animal and because of that it can cause problems for everyone. I think it might be time to update the ACAA and FHA to reflect the ADA.
Brett
> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Okay folks, it's stupid question time...
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> If a person has a mental or emotional condition so serious that an emotional support animal is necessary, why then would the person choose a pig? She has to know that a pig is going to cause people to ask a lot of questions and create drama where ever she goes.
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> -----Original Message----- From: Ginger Kutsch via nagdu
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> Subject: [nagdu] Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley
> InternationalAirport, only to learn it couldn't fly
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> Passenger with pig boards flight at Bradley International Airport,
> only to learn it couldn't fly
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> By Dwight B. Shepard | dshepard at repub.com
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> November 28, 2014
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> Source:
> http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/passenger_with_pig_boar
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> You've heard the expression, "when pigs fly" haven't you?
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> It's is an adynaton, or, a figure of speech, if you will, so
> hyperbolic that it describes an impossibility. It's used for
> humorously, when someone wants to make fun of over-ambition.
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> But a passenger at Bradley International Airport, in Windsor Locks,
> Connecticut, wasn't kidding when she boarded a US Airways flight with
> a pig in tow.
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> Jonathan Skolnik, a professor at the University of Massachusetts at
> Amherst told ABC News he thought the woman with the pig was carrying a
> duffel bag when she got on the plane.
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> Skolnick, a passenger on the plane, became quite concerned when the
> woman, and her pig, headed straight for the empty seat next to him.
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> "But it turns out it wasn't a duffel bag. We could smell it and it was
> a pig on a leash," he told ABC. "She tethered it to the arm rest next
> to me and started to deal with her stuff, but the pig was walking back and forth."
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> "I was terrified, because I was thinking I'm gonna be on the plane
> with the pig," Snolnik added, saying he guesses the pig weighed
> between 50 and 70 pounds.
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> Another passenger on the flight commented on ABC's website, "This was
> the most surreal flying experience of my life. How are animals of this
> size allowed in a passenger compartment of an airplane? This should
> not be permitted."
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> According to Britain's Daily Mail newspaper, the woman had the pig as
> an emotional support animal, but was asked to leave the plane after it
> became disruptive.
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> The Department of Transportation has certain guidelines concerning
> animals, including pigs, monkeys and miniature horses, that can be
> taken on flights if they are determined to be needed as emotional
> support for a person. TSA officials are supposed to determine whether
> the animal is permitted on the plane by running through a list of guidelines, the newsaper reported.
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> "Pigs are favored service animals for people allergic to dogs," the
> Daily Mail wrote. "Guidelines suggest they are intelligent companions
> and attuned to dangerous situations."
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> According to a 2012 CNCNews.com report, airlines must let passengers
> fly with pigs if they are for such emotional support. The department
> published a manual in July of that year designed to "help carriers and
> indirect carriers and their employees/contractors that provide
> services or facilities to passengers with disabilities, assist those passengers in accordance with"
> the Air Carrier Access Act.
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> Here is a scenario described in the manual.
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> "A passenger arrives at the gate accompanied by a pot-bellied pig. She
> claims that the pot-bellied pig is her service animal. What should you do?"
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> "Generally, you must permit a passenger with a disability to be
> accompanied by a service animal," reads the manual. "However, if you
> have a reasonable basis for questioning whether the animal is a
> service animal, you may ask for some verification."
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> The manual instructs airline carriers and their employees to begin by
> asking questions about the animal's training and what service it
> performs for the individual.
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> "If you are not satisfied with the credibility of the answers to these
> questions or if the service animal is an emotional support or
> psychiatric service animal, you may request further verification," the guidebook states.
> "You should also call a CRO [Complaints Resolution Official] if there
> is any further doubt as to whether the pot-bellied pig is the
> passenger's service animal."
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> If the answers are satisfactory, pigs, which can weigh as much as 300
> pounds, must be accepted aboard the plane.
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> "Finally, if you determine that the pot-bellied pig is a service
> animal, you must permit the service animal to accompany the passenger
> to her seat provided the animal does not obstruct the aisle or present
> any safety issues and the animal is behaving appropriately in a public
> setting," the manual states.
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> So, I guess, some pigs can fly.
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