[nagdu] [Gdui-chat] Halloween preparations?

Larry D Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sat Oct 25 14:16:44 UTC 2014


Eell, I'm good! Holly doesn't mind masks and I've got a friendly ghost!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Marie via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Gdui-chat] Halloween preparations?


> Jessie,
>
> Exactly... it's only masks that spook her... but I have only been 
> partnered with her for just over a year.  For all I know she won't care.
>
> She has occasionally barked (out of harness) at something or someone, but 
> no growling except for that one time with the mask.
>
> My coworker is willing to bring in his mask a couple of days early so we 
> can work on it... and he is quite understanding about the whole thing.
>
> Daryl and Jenny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jessie Rayl via Gdui-chat <gdui-chat at acb.org>
> To: 'Michael Malver' <mmalver at gmail.com>
> Cc: 'GDUI Chat List' <gdui-chat at acb.org>
> Sent: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 15:30:29 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [Gdui-chat] Halloween preparations?
>
> Hi.  Well, I retired a dog because of hyper-aggression as well.  I have no
> doubt he would have growled at people with masks, or any other excuse in 
> his
> hyper-aggressive mind, and I simply was not tolerating his 
> hyper-aggression.
> That, as far as I'm concerned, should never, ever, have been my problem
> because I'm very certain did not start the day he came into my life. 
> Sorry
> trainers but no indeed it does not.  It starts way, way before then-and 
> you
> know it.  So why those dogs are being released, God help us, as guide dogs
> is beyond me but sadly, some are .and by every school I know.
> Now, if the dog only growls at someone with a mask on and never ever at
> another person, then sure, I'd work with that .first show them the mask,
> then the person without the mask, then the person with the mask.  More
> importantly, I'd show them the mask, then me with the mask on, then, etc.
> And with a lot of praise for appropriate behavior and strict correction 
> for
> inappropriate behavior.
> Same with when a dog of mine growled at people with umbrellas: I simply 
> got
> different umbrellas, let him sniff them, check them out, then me and 
> several
> others held them in different positions and he learned that's all they 
> were
> .were not going to hurt or hit him.  Who knows what his early life
> experience was, or was not, with one?
> Same with, when Radar first saw my mom whom he dearly loved with her hair
> all wrapped up in a towel.  He first growled, then lay down and cried. 
> All
> we had to do was show him she was perfectly fine, it was still the same
> person and all it was was a towel over her hair .no big deal.
>
> The fact is, a mask, or umbrella, or cast, even wheelchair, etc. does 
> alter
> the person's appearance.  However, our dogs must learn that growling (a 
> sign
> of fear or aggression) is an inappropriate behavioral display and so will
> not be tolerated in most circumstances wherein the person's behavior is
> normal.  And, since we should be in control of the dog, they need to
> understand that "no growl" or "no bark" means just that.  If not, then 
> there
> is a real problem and yes indeed, the dog may well need to be retired
> because if it gets by with growling at the masked person, next it will be,
> well, on and on and on it goes.
>
> Four of my five dogs were able to understand and gain the trust in me they
> needed for us to form a team.  They know that when I tell them "no growl" 
> or
> "no bark" it is okay and they need to obey.  The fifth one, quite frankly,
> did not care or heed that and was hyper-aggressive.  He was determined he
> would control me and everyone around .and he did until someone controlled
> him-happily.
>
>
> Jessie
>
>
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