[nagdu] Washington Post: Uber sued for allegedly refusingridestothe blind and putting a dog in the trunk

melissa R green graduate56 at juno.com
Sun Sep 14 05:29:13 UTC 2014 

Haven't used this service yet.  But it sounds like there is education that
needs to go on.  Sat that it has to be via a law suit.  I also wonder how
the dog was put in a trunk.  Poor dog and por owner.  

Sincerely,
Melissa R Green and Pj
"Real friendship understands the depths of true feelings and sounds of words
unspoken."


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski
via nagdu
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 2:55 PM
To: Mark J. Cadigan; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington Post: Uber sued for allegedly
refusingridestothe blind and putting a dog in the trunk

Hi all. I've used Uber a few times within the past month. I haven't yet had
any issues but if you do support at uber.com is a good email address to get a
hold of Uber. The only problem I had once was a driver said that he had a
flat tire. I obviously couldn't prove whether he did or not but figured out
that it was a true statement because same driver picked me up a few days
later when I took them. Most of the drivers I've had have been fine except
that one particular driver. I ended up getting a 10 dollar credit which was
cool but since the app is easy to use it wasn't difficult to get another
driver. I'll see how they are as I go and if I have any issues I'll keep you
posted. I wouldn't allow any driver to put my dog anywhere and can't imagine
the guide dog user not knowing that her dog was in the trunk. Just my two
cents worth on a Friday afternoon. 

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilniski at gmail.com
twitter: zebs_mom
Sent from my IPhone



On Sep 12, 2014, at 12:03 PM, "Mark J. Cadigan via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

Raven,



I have had UBER drivers refuse to transport me. all I do in this situation
is hit the button to request another driver. The system normally won't kick
the request to the same driver. Or, at least I have never seen it do that.
After my new UBER is on its way, I send a quick email to UBER customer
support and they refund me any cancelation fees, and supposedly give the
driver a talking to, however I can neither prove nor disprove that the
drivers ever face consequences.



HTH

Mark



----- Original Message ----- From: "Raven Tolliver via nagdu"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Dan Weiner" <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington Post: Uber sued for allegedly
refusingridestothe blind and putting a dog in the trunk


> This just happened to me this past Saturday. Fortunately, I had the 
> option of taking a bus, but I chose to request a Uber because the 
> buses were only running once an hour at the time of day. So I request 
> a Uber, and the guy is 3 minutes away. I'm on the phone with him, 
> telling him where I am because I'm not at a physical address. He pulls 
> up, sees the dog, apologizes and pulls off. Okay, so I gotta go wait 
> for a bus. The biggest pain in the butt with an ap like this is that, 
> unlike a taxi, you can't request another ride, because the one you're 
> going to get is the same person that just left you stranded.
> Fortunately, I did not get charged for a ride that never happened. And 
> the same as with Nicole's mentioned Taxi Magic, you can only rate and 
> comment on drivers after your ride.
> I love Uber. Every other driver I've had was incredibly nice. But 
> something has to change. This is a service provided to the public, so 
> they need to pull up their drawers, own up, and realize that they must 
> accommodate people with service dogs as such.
> 
>> On 9/12/14, Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Well you know the problem with specifying that you have a guide dog 
>> is this"
>> Honestly when I've done it I still get drivers who have issues--smile.
>> Not always of course, but it has happened several times when I would 
>> say that I'm blind and have a service dog or guide dog that then the 
>> driver would come and act like a numbskull and claim whatever excuse:
>> Allergies, fear of dogs, or ""I don't take dogs".
>> 
>> 
>> So I suppose what has to happen is that penalties need to be beefed 
>> up and they have to be laws with real clout, I mean readily enforceable.
>> 
>> Dan W.
>> 
>> dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole 
>> Torcolini via nagdu
>> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:24 AM
>> To: 'debby phillips'; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of 
>> Guide Dog Users'; 'Marion Gwizdala'; nyagdu at nfbnet.org; 
>> njagdu at nfbnet.org; flagdu at nfbnet.org; nagdu-leaders at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: marion.gwizdala at verizon.net
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington Post: Uber sued for allegedly 
>> refusingridestothe blind and putting a dog in the trunk
>> 
>> This is going to happen with any service that uses apps for 
>> scheduling that does not provide a way for specifying  that you have 
>> a service dog. I know that some people don't like specifying that 
>> they have a service dog with them, but I would rather wait a little 
>> longer for someone who will take a dog than wait at least double time 
>> for someone to come, see the dog, and then get someone else, provided 
>> that I realize right away what has happened.
>> There is another app called taxi Magic, and I have had this happen to 
>> me at least two or three times. There needs to be laws about smart 
>> phone apps for scheduling that say that the app has to allow the user 
>> to provide feedback to the company that the driver drove off when 
>> they saw the dog. Taxi Magic has a ride survey, but you don't get to 
>> take it if the driver cancels the ride, which is what most of the drivers
did.
>> 
>> Nicole
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of debby 
>> phillips via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:11 PM
>> To: Marion Gwizdala; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of 
>> Guide Dog Users; nagdu at nfbnet.org; nyagdu at nfbnet.org; 
>> njagdu at nfbnet.org; flagdu at nfbnet.org; nagdu-leaders at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: marion.gwizdala at verizon.net
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Washington Post: Uber sued for allegedly 
>> refusing ridestothe blind and putting a dog in the trunk
>> 
>> Hi all, there's another company similar to Uber called Lift.  The 
>> same thing happened to a friend of mine.  He and his dog were 
>> supposed to be picked up at work and driven home.  He lives in 
>> another city from our job, and there's no bus connection between the 
>> two.  So when he downloaded LIFT to his phone, he was given a bunch 
>> of free rides, which was their offer for new folks.
>> Anyway, the car came to get him and when the driver saw that the 
>> blind person had a dog, he left.  Not sure what he is doing about 
>> this.  I had thought about getting this App and using Lift, but I
>> don't exactly want to get stranded.    Peace,    Debby and the
>> Golden Neena
>> 
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