[nagdu] posting limit

[Marsha Drenth]

Jen and all,
In my defense, when I posted the message about subject titles and posting limits, there was actually no one at that point in time that had violated the posting limits rule. I was more concerned about the subject titles than the posting limits. With that said, I can't even remember the last time I reminded the whole list of the posting limits, if every few weeks is too much, then I am sorry. If posting a reminder to the whole list reminding them about certain rules every few weeks is too much for your inbox, I am not sure how the other list traffic can't be too much either. typically I do email members off list, when they have violated a rule, usually the behavior goes away and we go on. And yes I do give leeway to those I know who might have one extra over the limit post, or who might have forgotten about the rule, or someone who needed to ask an important question, or someone who might have said something important to say or contribute. When I read posts, I also look at the message sent time, if the message is around that midnight hour. Yes the limit changes. Yes we have our regular members who post all of the time. Yes we have our regular members who have alot to say. But as the list moderator, I do think I have the discretion to remind folks of certain rules on list, as much if not a majority of the violations are taken care of off list. About NAGDU board members stepping in to remind people of the rules also, is not something that again that happens often. I am human, I do have a life, with responsibilities, and sometimes I miss things. Sometimes I don't have time to read the messages for 12 hours, by then something might have needed to be pointed out by then. If its a reminder on list, its not a big deal, nor do I see that they are stepping on my toes. 
And back to what I was saying about posting limits, at that point in time, there had been no violation of the rule, it was a friendly reminder. Most people know that if they are following rules, and if I post a reminder, that it probably doesn't apply to them. Everyone here is an adult, and I do treat, or try to treat everyone as an adult. The moderator is not someone who should have a heavy hand, over everyone's head all of the time. Generally we are discussing relevant topics. Yes some subjects get beaten to death, and brought up again, but typically before I can say something, they die themselves. Or a list member, will polite tell them to go and check the archives. Every time a new member joins we might discuss the same thing over and over, but that is the nature of email lists, and new members joining. 
So my point is to say Thank you for the suggestions. If the NAGDU board would like to replace me, that is up to their discretion. If the NAGDU baord wants to change the rules, they are more than welcome to do so. And before this turns into a long long  discussion on list, anyone who would like to discuss this further is more than welcome to email me offlist. 
Thank you, 

Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator  
email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com  
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Please note that this email communication has been sent using my iPhone. As such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to mitigate errors. Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary. 

> On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Jen via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Mike:
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> 
> I was asking the rational as it seems the same people who violate the rules,
> I personally feel the moderators should consider speaking with them in
> private and put them on moderated status until they understand the etiquette
> of this particular list. Sorry if folks thinks I am jumping the gun, but it
> is the same people doing this, and I just think, posting these reminders all
> the time,when members who rarely post and only read, like myself, it tends
> to clutter up our boxes, more than those who send messages in overkill.
> Sometimes, a bit of leeway needs to be considered, and in private help those
> folks who are not as computer literate or understand, how lists work etc.
> 
> 
> 
> I only found out, members of the NAGDU board are acting as moderators, when
> it isn't their position to step in and remind folks of the rules, it is the
> moderator's discretion to step in those circumstances. I run a group, where
> there has been board members on there, but they don't have the position to
> step in, but if there are concerns, they direct them to me to look after and
> step in if the need arises, as I have the control of the group, in this
> case, it is Marsha's list, even if the board "dictates" the rules.
> 
> 
> 
> At this point, after being a member of this group, even though I've enjoyed
> many discussions that were of interest to me, and rarely do post, I think it
> is in the best of interest, as it seems the information and concerns
> addressed are not being conveyed in the best of light and I'm only sending
> out suggestions to moderators in how to best improve their abilities to
> conduct themselves as the best moderators they can be, as I've moderated
> groups for over 15 years. I will admit, I've made my share of mistakes;
> however, those mistakes are not made twice, *grin*, and I've been able to
> create some family-oriented and fun environments on the lists I run, etc.
> sadly, I may not please everyone, which is typical, but there are folks who
> do support and understand how to best approach and solve problems in
> differing levels.
> 
> 
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