[nagdu] Fake Service Dogs

Tara Briggs thflute at gmail.com
Tue Aug 4 04:37:01 UTC 2015


Well said Julie! A few months ago, I was on the train with a lady who had a service dog for anxiety. Her dog was beautifully trained and completely focused on the lady. The dog did not pay attention to my dog.

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> On Aug 3, 2015, at 7:27 PM, "Julie J. via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That's pretty harsh.   Personally, I'm glad we are past the days of institutions.  I'm glad freedom and independence are available options for all.   I've heard the horror stories about mental institutions and a few about institutions for blind people.  I know I don't want to live that way because of a characteristic I have no control over.  I wouldn't wish it for anyone else either.
> 
> If a dog can help a person with whatever their disability is, then I'm glad for them.  I just want the dog to be well behaved so it doesn't create problems for me or others.  And because I want to be treated courteously, I also extend that to others.
> 
> Julie
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> -----Original Message----- From: S L Johnson via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 7:52 PM
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> Cc: S L Johnson
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake Service Dogs
> 
> Hi Dan:
> 
> Yes, it seems that all the nuts and crazy people are getting any old dog and
> claiming it is a service dog.  I say, lock the nuts up and keep their poorly
> behaved out of control dogs out of the public businesses and housing where
> the rest of us normal people want to live and work our real legal guide
> hearing or service dogs.  It was sure easier when the laws were not so
> liberal, when the only dogs allowed were guide, hearing or service dogs for
> physically handicapped.  Then it was obvious the person was disabled.  Now
> with all the mentally ill claiming they need service dogs, it is almost
> impossible for a business owner to know what to do or think.  I know in my
> area there have been some confusing cases of people claiming they were
> disabled veterans with dogs for their PTSD.  Some of them admitted to just
> putting service dog identification on their pet dogs because they had the
> right to be accompanied by a service dog.  Somehow the laws have to clarify
> this so any business or person will know who is really disabled and who is
> not.
> 
> Sandra
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Dan Weiner via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 5:20 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Dan Weiner
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake Service Dogs
> 
> Am I imagining it or is everyone and his brother claiming to have a
> disability and brinnging aa service animal or supposed one in places. It
> used to be we had to go through quite an effort to gain training with our
> guide or service dogs and then feel entitled to bring them with us virtually
> everywhere.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 5:17 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fake Service Dogs
> 
> In order to be a service dog it must be trained to do a task.  In the case
> of PTSD, for example, it may help the woman get out of a situation that is
> causing extreme stress or protect her from other people if they are pushing
> in too close.  If the dog does not have a task then it is an assistance or
> emotional support dog and that is not covered under ADA.  If it is business
> owners who are asking you then you can tell them they can ask if the dog is
> trained to do a task and what task is it trained to do. I have seen guide
> dogs that were trained at the best schools in the U.S. and they aren't
> behaving well either.  Just because a dog is misbehaving doesn't mean it
> isn't trained.  There are people who do not maintain t he training once they
> get home.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/3/15, Miranda Morse via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello, In the last week I have been approached by two different
>> individuals at different times about a woman in town who has PTSD and
>> has a service dog.
>> Their claims are that it is a fake service animal because of the way
>> it acts in public. It is a great dane and I have seen it in public
>> before and I would tend to agree.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to address this matter?
>> 
>> Miranda
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