[nagdu] Dog ownership in other areas of the world

Thu Aug 6 13:17:48 UTC 2015

When I was at GDB, many moons ago, I felt the instructors were against
ownership because they'd bought into the idea that the school keeping
ownership was the only way to protect the dogs from being abused. Huh.
Tracy and poor abused Krokus, lying on his cushion with his toy

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				Very interesting. 
Why were the instructors against ownership? My thinking is that the process
currently in place provides them with great job security.

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Hi Tina and all. Trying to remember how it all worked. Smile As New Zealand
is a rabies free country with an agricultural based economy--we have more
sheep than people, they are understandably extremely strict about animals
coming into the country.

It was a six month process with tons of paperwork and tests to get Lizzie
in. The only concessions they make for assistance animals is the home
quarantine, rather than a facility and travel in the cabin of the airliner. 
As Seeing Eye obviously can't do any sort of follow up or orientation
support here, they advised me to contact the school to orient us to the new
area. Also for Lizzie to be protected by the NZ access laws, she would need
a tag, which she wears on her collar saying she is a guide dog certified to
work in NZ. 
I had a local instructor come out and give us some orientation. She also
observed how Lizzie worked--basically just following us on simple routes and
had the tag sent to us. Each year, Lizzie gets a new tag, and the instructor
comes out and follows us on a route of our choosing. She is here if I run
into any sort of difficulty with travel, orientation, or dog behavior
issues. Luckily, I haven't had any and would probably still work them out
myself or  with TSE if possible.
The general public doesn't even realize Lizzie isn't from the New Zealand
school. Several months ago, I had a gentleman stop me on the street in
Wellington. He said he never gives to charity, but he has seen me and Liz
several times and she is such a great dog he gave a donation to the guide
dog school. I didn't have the heart to tell him she wasn't a home bred kiwi
guide. Smile But that's what it's about whatever school your dog comes from.

Cheers
Bonnie 

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Hello Bonnie- Could you tell us more about how the certification and
recertification process works in NZ. 
Thank you. 
Tina and the pointy ear princesses

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Hi Jimmy and others. This is a very interesting topic. I am an American
living in New Zealand and brought my dog from The Seeing Eye over with me
when I moved here in 2013. We have one school here in New Zealand--operated
as part of the Blind Foundation. My understanding  is they do not offer
ownership: however, at one time, they did, but the guide dog instructors
lobbied against it. As part of working a dog in NZ, I had to get Lizzie
certified by the NZ school and have to have an instructor recertify her each
year. As someone, who has always had ownership of her dog, this was a tough
thing to get my head around.

Cheers
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Subject: [nagdu] Dog ownership in other areas of the world

Good evening friends!
I was curious if anyone has done research on how guide dog schools in other
parts of the world Address and view guide  dog ownership? I ask as I wonder
if this is   In  just in our country or in other areas as well

James Alan Boehm
Phone: 901-483-1515
Personal Email: jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com Refer NFB correspondences to:
secretary at nfb-tn.org

"Blindness never limits- Low expectations do! Live the life you want!"
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