[nagdu] Germany was:ownership in other areas of the world

[Lisa]

Hi Rebecca,

right now I only know of one company who gives ownership to the handler. 
This happens automatically after graduation if you are insured with this 
company. So before you decide to get a guide dog you could theoretically get 
insured with them and then start the whole process.

The whole procedure is different here, so I have to explain a little further 
I think:
When you want to apply for a guide dog you need a prescription from your eye 
specialist and a cost estimate from the guide dog school you have previously 
chosen. You send those to your health insurance company, together with a 
statement why you need a guide dog. Then, sadly enough, the normal reaction 
is to deny you. After that, for  a lot of German guide dog applicants, a 
nerve-wrecking procedure starts in which you have to send objections with 
more reasons and exerpts from laws that state you have the right to get a 
guide dog... Some health insurance companies give in quite quickly when they 
notice you are well-informed and determined but others don't. So some people 
have to go to court to fight for their right. In the end, if the company has 
agreed to pay for a guide dog, the training with the owner begins and after 
graduation, the dog is no longer owned by the school but by the HI company 
or in this one case I know, health insurance gives ownership to the handler.

Lisa
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From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog ownership in other areas of the world


> I'd like to know this too.
> Also, Lisa you mentioned that some health insurance companies give 
> ownership
> to the handler? How would one get on such a plan?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:19 PM
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> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog ownership in other areas of the world
>
> Hi Lisa.
> I'm trying to get my head around my health insurance company owning my 
> dog.
> If they decide to take it away from the handler, what happens to it?
> Here, health insurance companies are giant mega-corporations.  As a
> business, they'd have no idea what to do with an actual living creature in
> their care.
> Tracy
>
>> Hi Jimmy,
>>
>> here in Germany health insurance companies pay for our guide dogs. So
>> normally, they have ownership of the dogs until they retire. When they
>> retire, they become "normal dogs" (you know what I mean, not working
>> dogs
>> anymore) and either the former guide dog handler or someone else can
>> take ownership of them.
>> There are a few health insurance companies that give ownership to the
>> guide dog handler after graduation but that's very rare over here.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jimmy via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Jimmy" <jimmydagerman80 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 4:06 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog ownership in other areas of the world
>>
>>
>>> Good evening friends!
>>> I was curious if anyone has done research on how guide dog schools in
>>> other parts of the world Address and view guide  dog ownership? I ask
>>> as I
>>> wonder if this is   In  just in our country or in other areas as well
>>>
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