[nagdu] I gotta go out

[Cindy Ray]

The dogs are raised in the homes of puppy raisers, but when they go back to
the schools, they live in kennels until such time as they are paired up with
a person.

Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


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Subject: Re: [nagdu] I gotta go out


Why do they put the dogs back in the kennels instead of having them continue
to stay with the puppy raiser?


On Aug 8, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

Debby,
Agreed.
Also remember that these dogs lose 60% of their house training while they
live in the kennels. In the kennels, the dogs don't have to notify anyone
that they need to relieve. They are on an extremely strict schedule. They
are relieved and fed at the same times everyday for 4 to 6 months. So even
if puppy-raisers taught the dogs a way to signify that they need to go out,
there's high probability they won't retain the behavior.

Puppy-raisers do a lot of great work, but it is impossible for these dogs to
come out of the kennels the same dogs they were when they entered.
Sometimes, these changes are easily reversible, and other times, they're
permanent, but might be better on some days than others.
--
Raven
Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
www.1am-editing.com

You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or
what you do.

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> On 8/8/15, Debby Phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> But here's the thing.  When we get them, they are not fully grown yet.  
> They are still a bit puppyish.  They have spent time in the kennels 
> before we get them, so they do have to relearn some of their house 
> manners again.  I don't really know what the answer is, because if we 
> got them when they were a bit older, say 2-1/2 or 3, then that would 
> cut down on the working life time for many of the dogs.  I know that 
> you have done a great job with Krokus, Tracy.  But even Nova, who is 
> much more mellow than Neena was, still does puppy things on occasion.  
> My dog Maxy (that is, my first dog) was almost 3 when I got her.  The 
> first night home with her she tried to roll in some cat poop.  Now 
> that was a real thrill, since she was my first dog, and I had no 
> experience really of dogs doing stuff like that.  (Except for Bozo the 
> Beagle, and I don't have time to tell that story now).  And it 
> probably isn't relevant to this list anyway.
> 
> Anyway, my point is this: we can have high expectations of our dogs, 
> and should.  But they are dogs, and they will have accidents, chew 
> stuff, get into things.  In all the lectures at Seeing Eye about going 
> home, the vet lecture, etc.  this was stressed, that they may be 
> highly trained Seeing Eye dogs, but they are still dogs, and the 
> nature of dogs is to do certain
> things.    Debby and Nova
> 
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