[nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Thu Aug 20 21:04:05 UTC 2015

Hi,
I don't live with my parents no.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

-----Original Message----- 
From: Cindy Ray via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Joh, do you not live with your parents? If you do, that proved to be
difficult back when you had Molly as I recall. Perhaps the day will come
when you will live on your own and have the opportunity to do more routes. I
never knew any schools expected you to be able to show three routes. Anyway,
You will get there. You have made the effort and that's importance. As far
as the Commission for the Blind goes, they need to understand that the
confidence you feel is really a test of whether you need additional mobility
assistance, not their testing. Maybe someone in Michigan could help you with
this.
Cindy

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi,
I've contacted the Michigan Commission for the blind.
The commission thinks that I don't need anymore Mobility training and they
don't want to spend anymore money on Mobility training for me.
The commission said that they would send a mobility instructer to do a
mobility examination, but that never happened.
The counselar who I'm talking to is still in training.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi John:

I also live in an area where I don't have a lot of different routes I can
take.  I have many stops along that one main route but, that doesn't qualify
as different routes to some schools.  I take a cab or bus to other areas.
If you don't mind a suggestion, Contact your local rehab agency and and
request an O&M instructor.  That person can help you establish different
routes and work with you on those routes until you can travel them
independently and with confidence.  It will take you some time but, in the
end, you will be more ready to try another guide dog.  Good luck.

Sandra

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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi,
My area is very rural.
There is not much to do out here.
Leader dog wants 3 routes estabolished that I can do completely
independently.
I can think of two.
There is a speedway station a ways a way up the road where I live.
There's also a quality dairy store across from the speedway.
If I wanted to effectively get three routes in, I would have to take the bus
to another part of Okemos where there are other places to go.
Leader dog requires you to do three routes that you can do independently.
I had failed Misserably.
I called Leader dog and I talked with the client services representative and
they said that they were not going to submit my videos for addmissions to
review.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisa via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:51 PM
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Cc: Lisa ; Tracy Carcione
Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi Tracy,

I thought the same thing for a second. But then I also thought, maybe there
are different places to go but just no very long routes to walk. I don't
know what's required for such an application, if there is a certain distance
that you have to walk or if it's just fine if you go to different shops or
other places, take a bus or train, just to show that you're able to do it.
John, it would be interesting to hear more about your area. Are there things
you could do more easily with your new guide?

Lisa
Lisa
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

> Hi John.
> Can you get into Lansing, and work there?
> I don't want to be negative, but, if you have nowhere to go, what are you
> hoping to get from a dog?
> Tracy
>
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> nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>
> Hi,
> I did find there program helpful.
> The only issue I have is that; I'm not able to come up with three routes
> that I can perform as one of there requirements.
> Because of the area I live in.
> There is not a lot to do out where I live.
> I live in Okemos Michigan.
> It's a suberb of Lansing Michigan.
> I hope to hear from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:10 AM
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>
> Good for you, John!  Did you find Leaders' mobility program helpful?
> I know you had problems with the young dog you had before.  I wish you all
> success with this next attempt.
> Tracy
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:54 AM
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> Subject: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>
> Hi my name is John Sanders.
> I just wanted to let you know that  I have completed the training program
> for Mobility at Leader dog.
> Iâ?Tm now in the process of being admitted.
> A Mobility Specialist is supposed to be stopping out to my home to do a
> video of me doing a full route.
> The only thing is the weather.
> Itâ?Ts not going to be very nice today.
> Itâ?Ts supposed to be raining and thunder storming outside here in
> Michigan.
> I hope I can be addmitted in to leader dog for getting a guide dog.
> I didnâ?Tt have to go through the application process.
> Because the school said that they would transfer my information over from
> the accelerated Mobility application that I had filled out.
> I hope to hear from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
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