[nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Sat Aug 22 04:05:34 UTC 2015

Hi,
She claims that she is concerned about my safety and she is taking things 
from a realistic perspective.
She helps me with doing my laundry.
I live in a low income apartment complex.
I don't like living here.
I'm actively finding another place to move to.
I'm searching for that place.
The only other issue I have is depression.
I don't have any others.
The commission has been through my apartment and has tried to put braille 
labels on my appliances.
I don't have a regular oven.
I have a microwave oven.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

-----Original Message----- 
From: Star Gazer via nagdu
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 6:45 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Star Gazer
Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Traveling to the school would be easy, it's just like traveling anyplace 
else.
You mention a home health care aid. What does she do for you? I ask because 
traveling to the school is easy. I'm wondering if you have the health to use 
a dog effectively and if that is what you want to spend your energy doing? 
I'm assuming you have some quite serious medical issues if you have a home 
health care aid, because as hungry as those women are for work, they don't 
just show up at your door unless you solicit them.
Lastly, why would you seek out the opinion of someone who has no knowellege 
or experience with guide dogs? She may be a fine woman and a fine health 
care provider but she doesn't know squat about what a guide dog is like. Why 
not stick to subject matter experts (this list) for that?

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of starmy22--- via 
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi,
What I think she probably ment by that was she was thinking about the travel 
aspect of it.
The part about traveling all the way out to the school to get help on a 
particular issue.
She told me herself that she doesn't know anything about how guide dogs 
work.
Before I went to LDB, I didn't use to go outside and explore my area.
Eversince I got home from there Mobility Training Program, I feel now I have 
a purpose for going outside and traveling to get use to my area.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders

-----Original Message-----
From: Cindy Ray via nagdu
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:24 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Cindy Ray
Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of starmy22--- via
nagdu
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 4:19 PM
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Cc: starmy22 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

Hi,
I have the application already filled out for LDB.
I attended there accellerated Mobility Training program.
I love the campus.
I also like the fact that if I were to have an issue with the dog, I would
be able to have an instructer or a rep from the school out here to work with
me on it.
I am not sure loving the campus under the circumstances is the best reason
for going to Leader for a dog. You can get help from any of the schools, I
think.
I have a home health care provider and she said to use my head and think
about the location and travel.What did the Home Health Care provider mean by
the above statement. I don't see where it makes sense, and they don't always
know the right answers where such things as this are concerned, do they?

I've also applied to Guide Dogs of America.
I've gotten most of the process done with them.
All that needs to be done is me sending in the video and them calling me for
an interview over the phone.
I do sort of feel as others have expressed, that you need more work before
you are truly ready for a dog. Of course we each have to do what feels the
best for us, weighing all of the factors as we go.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 4:35 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Raven Tolliver
Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog

John,
I understand what you're saying. When I got my guide dog, all I knew was my
college campus, and I think I only went to 2 or 3 places off campus for
community service and small errands. After I got my dog, I felt more
comfortable exploring the area surrounding my campus, traveling to other
parts of the city, and using the fixed route bus. I was motivated to get out
and go since it was necessary for my dog's well-being, and it helped me
greatly as well, opening my eyes to the places and things I'd been missing
by limiting myself to travel by taxi.
To be honest, some people are more confident traveling with a dog than a
cane. I am one of those people, and you might be as well. And when you get
another dog, maybe you'll decide a dog isn't right. But you'll cross that
bridge if you get to it.

Here's a question, are you set on going to LDB for your guide dog? If you
think a dog is something you really want, you definitely don't have to
attend LDB for your dog. There are other schools throughout the country who
will pay for your transport to and from the facility.
What is it that LDB offers to you that you can't find in other programs?
Maybe applying to a different school is an option.

Just some food for thought.
--
Raven
Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
www.1am-editing.com

You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or
what you do.

Naturally-reared guide dogs
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs

On 8/21/15, starmy22--- via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm starting to walk a route to a small store called Quality Dairy.
> The person who agreed to help me is happy to do it.
> Once I told him that Leader dog requires you to do three routes, they
> had said that they are not willing to help me with those because they
> don't have the time or the ability to do that.
> This is a good friend of mine.
> He is in his mid twenties.
> I have a tough time remembering routes.
> I'm slowly starting to work on that.
> I had a seizure a long time ago.
> I also had brain bleeds when I wsa born.
> That did not help any.
> I hope to hear from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Pawpower Pack via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:12 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: The Pawpower Pack
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>
> John,
> Not relying on Sighted people all the time is a great goal.  However,
> it may be better for you to use a cane and learn to rely upon yourself
> first.  A dog and person are a team.  Before you can direct a dog, you
> need to be able to know where you are and how to get where you want to
> go, and the only way to get good at that is to spend time with your
> cane and improve the skill of relying upon yourself and the tools you
> have so that you can become confident.
>
>
> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:56 PM, starmy22--- via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> What I mean by that is not always relying on sighted people all the
>> time for guidance.
>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>> Sincerely,
>> John Sanders
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: AlyssaHenson via nagdu
>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:44 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: AlyssaHenson
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>
>> When you say increase your independence, what exactly do you mean?
>> Remember, a dog isn't a cure all for o and m struggles. With that
>> being said, I can see how your answer could go in several directions.
>> I guess what I'm getting at here is it would be nice to know
>> specifically how you wish to utilize a dog to increase your independence.
>> Alyssa and Melody
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:03 PM, starmy22--- via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> The reason why I'm wanting a dog is because my independence can be
>>> increased.
>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> John Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Star Gazer via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 4:03 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Star Gazer
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>>
>>> Also John, is it that you have nowhere to go, or that you just go
>>> using sighted assistance? The distinction matters and the latter
>>> option is fine
>>>
>>> in my book.
>>> Finally, why do you want a dog? I ask this with all respect, what
>>> will a dog bring you and do you need/want it?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione
>>>
>>> via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:46 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>>
>>> Hi John.
>>> Can you get into Lansing, and work there?
>>> I don't want to be negative, but, if you have nowhere to go, what
>>> are you
>>>
>>> hoping to get from a dog?
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> starmy22--- via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:16 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: starmy22 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I did find there program helpful.
>>> The only issue I have is that; I'm not able to come up with three
>>> routes that I can perform as one of there requirements.
>>> Because of the area I live in.
>>> There is not a lot to do out where I live.
>>> I live in Okemos Michigan.
>>> It's a suberb of Lansing Michigan.
>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> John Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:10 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>>
>>> Good for you, John!  Did you find Leaders' mobility program helpful?
>>> I know you had problems with the young dog you had before.  I wish
>>> you all success with this next attempt.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> starmy22--- via nagdu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:54 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: starmy22 at gmail.com
>>> Subject: [nagdu] process of getting a guide dog from leader dog
>>>
>>> Hi my name is John Sanders.
>>> I just wanted to let you know that  I have completed the training
>>> program for Mobility at Leader dog.
>>> I’m now in the process of being admitted.
>>> A Mobility Specialist is supposed to be stopping out to my home to
>>> do a video of me doing a full route.
>>> The only thing is the weather.
>>> It’s not going to be very nice today.
>>> It’s supposed to be raining and thunder storming outside here in
>>> Michigan.
>>> I hope I can be addmitted in to leader dog for getting a guide dog.
>>> I didn’t have to go through the application process.
>>> Because the school said that they would transfer my information over
>>> from the accelerated Mobility application that I had filled out.
>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> John Sanders
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