[NAGDU] Hello

[S L Johnson]

Hello:

Eva was 14 months old the day I got her.  Assuming she had the usual Pilot 
Dogs 4 months of training, she left her puppy raiser at 10 months old.  Her 
behavior in the house was perfect from the day I was handed her leash.  I do 
not agree with using a crate so, Eva was loose in the room from our first 
day.  When we returned home 10 days later she had complete freedom in the 
house and her behavior has been perfect.  I think it depends on how the dog 
was raised, trained and the maturity of the dog.  Although Eva was so young, 
I have not had any work related problems.  That is much more than I can say 
for some much older dogs I have received over the past 40 years.

Sandra and Eva, who still isn't 3 years old

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lisa Belville via NAGDU
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hello

Hi, Lisa, as others have said, it depends on the schools.  Some only train
for four months but the schools I know who do this keep their dogs with the
puppy raisers for a year and a half and they crunch the four months of
training into more training opportunities throughout the day.

I'm on my third dog and I definitely want a dog who has had more time to
mature without the stresses of kennel life or formal training, not that
extensive formal training isn't important, but a dog who can be rid of most
of his puppy tendencies before I get him is going to have a better chance
with me because  I can concentrate on work issues specific to my
environment.

My first dog was 18 months old when I got him, and he was an awesome worker,
but full of energy and really too fast and hard of a puller for me.  I
honestly don't think more time with his raisers would have made much
difference in that case, he was just very rambunxious and too smart for his
own good.    My second dog was turned into the school early because they
were running low on dogs.  She spent barely ten months with her puppy
raisers, and I got her days before she turned a year and a half.  She'd gone
through training, but had a ton of kennel time in there.  she was probably
the worst behaved as far as in house manners, and I spent most of the first
year adjusting to her horrible house manners and some training issues.  she
turned out to be a good dog, but not without a huge amount of time and
effort on the part of myself and the school.

My current dog turned two just before we were matched.  She was with her
raiser for a year and a half.  She is by far the calmest and most behaved of
my dogs, even as a green dog.  All of the dogs in the class where I got
Paige were over two as well.

I'm not saying that letting dogs stay with their raisers for longer than a
year is a 100% guarantee for a successful match, but it does help.  also,
since I've worked with dogs before, I know what I want and don't want and
what I absolutely will not tolerate in a dog, so that helps, too.



Lisa

Lisa Belville
missktlab1217 at frontier.com
Veni, Vedi, Visa. I came. I Saw. I did a little shopping.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Cc: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Hello


> Hi Dar and congratulations on your new furry partner!
>
> Boy, Penny is young! When I got my dog, he was almost three. This had to 
> do with a long, long waiting period but he was ready for me with 2 1/2. 
> And considering how silly he still is at times, I'm quite happy he wasn't 
> younger. ;-)
> I also think they're not starting the actual guide dog training with a dog 
> that's younger than 1 here in Germany.
> But that's not meant as criticism at all. I hope you and Penny will become 
> a strong team! :)
>
> Lisa
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:10 AM
> Subject: [NAGDU] Hello
>
>
>>I am back again with Penney from pilot dogs.
>> She is 16 months old, birthday in August.
>> Gee I wonder if she will make it to two.
>> She is 19 inches tall.
>> As the vet shared and round.
>> I laughed because they tell peiple we are obese but she is round.
>> I dropped her back to three cups, from four.
>> The vet was fine with that.
>> We are doing well for first time home.
>> with her doing all of the firsts from Montana.
>> She loves the snow.
>> Recall isn't good, where I did get a flexy leash might start taking that 
>> out with me.
>> Don't want to stay out in the snow long.
>> Just thought I would say hi.
>>
>> -- 
>> --Dar
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