[nagdu] Running without a fenced yard

Mon Jan 19 18:42:26 UTC 2015

First of all a flexileash is a leash that retracts back into a handle. It
works kind of like a retractable cord. There are several lengths. You
usually get the best ones at pet stores I think. I think you can get at
places like Walmart, but I think the more heavy duty ones you may have to
get at a pet store.
Now, here's my opinion about letting dogs run. First off, I think it is
admirable if a person's dog will not leave a place fence or not. However,
their instincts are not bred out of them. If something comes along that
excites them enough, they will go. Second, I do let mine run in my
daughter's fenced in yard, but he now has been taken on leash so much that
he really has no desire to stay out a long time. This is good because of the
things he likes to eat in yards. I doubt I would ever let a young dog run. I
would let them all run if I had a fenced area, but the clean up is not an
option if they don't go on leash. Even as they do, I hire a dog poop cleaner
because the little dog mostly won't let you see what she's doing; the other
big dog is a traveling pooper and my DH (and probably I as well), don't get
it all. The guide is pretty good about it. I agree with the person who said
the dogs do fine if they can't run. It's all in what they adjust to. But of
course I think it is in their best interest to then work.
Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe via nagdu
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:25 PM
To: Sheila Leigland; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Running without a fenced yard

    Hi, can you describe this flexi leash?  Is it something that I can place
on the collar of the dog so he can move around?  My guide, Shubert doesn't
need this.  He doesn't tend to take off but, my wife has a dog where he
takes off every chance he can and I need to go and catch him.  Sounds like
this could help me control him better without keeping him on a short leash. 
Thanks for any information.  Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: Sheila Leigland via nagdu
Sent: Monday, January 19, 12:48 PM
To: Jack Rupert ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Running without a fenced yard

when we lived in an apartment complex we weren't allowed to have our dogs
offleash at all it was there policy. In our condo no dogs are permitted to
run offleash either.
On 1/19/2015 10:36 AM, Jack Rupert via nagdu wrote:
> Hello fellow guide dog users,
>
>
> I am currently on my second guide dog and he is about 2 1/2 years old, 
> I brought him home from school in August and with just a little 
> training in my on fenced yard he knows where he can go and he cannot.
> I know those of you who live in apartments may think that you can't 
> loose run your dog but the fact is you need to check with your 
> apartment complex and find the best area to make your dog run at. Once 
> you have that information you can start training your dog in that area 
> by walking around the perimeter of the area and after a few trips 
> around the area so he knows what the boundary has you can walk beside 
> him or her unhook your leash and hold onto the caller while walking 
> with the dog a couple times in the area then you can gradually leave 
> your leash off when you get to that area and your dog will stay there 
> it just takes a little practice and patience.
>
> This brings up the subject of dog parks, there are great place for 
> your dog to run but the friendship of other dogs is not always the 
> best for a guide dog or service dog and so care needs to be taken as 
> to how many dogs are in the dog park when you are there, and you want 
> to be sure that you leave your dog on leash until the other dogs have 
> a chance to say hello and then gradually let your dog loose.
>
> I am a walker, I live in the northern states where the winters are 
> cold and snowing and as long as it's above zero my dog and I take at 
> least one walk every day, consisting of about a mile. As a matter of 
> fact he will go to the back door when he thinks next that it's about 
> time to go for a walk. As a day's get longer and we can walk when it's 
> daylight we will start taking two walks a day and that with the bit of 
> loose dog exercise he gets enough exercise.
>
> This is my opinion and what works for me may not work for you, but it 
> is what I have learned from experience.
>
> Jack Rupert
> alumni, GDF/AmericasVetDogs
> PS. They have just announced a trial study on hearing loss dogs and a 
> study on dogs for those who have just PTSD.
> For more information on these new programs please contact the 
> foundation consumer services division.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debby 
> Phillips via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 11:02 AM
> To: Tracy Carcione; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of 
> Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Running without a fenced yard
>
> Hi Tracy, I am glad you like the flexi leash. It did not work that 
> well for me. I was always getting tangled up. Lol. I think it was a 
> matter of klutz on my part.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:01 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> There was a lot of discussion about dogs running free recently.  I 
>> didn't see any mention of the Flexi-leash, so I'll mention it.  When 
>> I lived in an apartment, I let my dog do some running on the 
>> Flexi-leash in a nearby un-fenced area.  It's not quite the same as 
>> running loose, but the dog can still enjoy herself at a distance 
>> while being under
> control.
>> I still use the Flexi with Krokus in my fenced yard.  He is more 
>> interested in eating sticks and leaves than running around, and I 
>> want to have control over where he goes and how long he hangs out in 
>> one place.
>> The Flexi isn't cheap, but it should last for years.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debby 
>> Phillips via nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 6:30 PM
>> To: Nimer Jaber; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of 
>> Guide Dog Users; buddy at brannan.name; nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog and parents issue
>>
>> I hate to tell you this, but there are dogs who probably never get to 
>> run and play freely.  And they are fine.  They get enough work with 
>> guiding to get exercise.  Sure, in an ideal world, it would be great 
>> for dogs to get to run and play off leash.  But it just DOESN'T 
>> happen always.  My first dog didn't get those opportunities, I lived 
>> in an apartment, no fenced yard, and so she did not get those
opportunities.
>> My third dog rarely got those opportunities either, same reason.  By 
>> then I was a little looser with what my dogs could and couldn't do, 
>> but still I had no fenced yard, so only when I went to visit my 
>> parents who did have a fenced yard was she able to run and play.  Now 
>> that I'm married and a home owner things are different.  But truly 
>> dogs survive and do quite well, whether they get to run off-leash or 
>> not.  I think that what you just wrote could be dangerous.  It might 
>> lead to someone with a brand new dog to let that dog be off leash in 
>> an
> unsafe place, thinking that they are allowing the dog freedom.
>> Do I think it's great that dogs can be off-leash? Yes, but is it
>> a necessity? No.    Peace,    Debby and Neena
>>
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