[nagdu] Dog in class

Fri Jan 23 14:27:13 UTC 2015

In a perfect world the other student would move but it is not a
perfect world.  Maybe someone from the school could help the two of
you work out a solution that both of you can live with.  We will
always come across dogs that are not under control.  I believe our
society is moving toward allowing pets into public places in the
future.  That is very common in Jermany.  We will all need to learn to
handle these situations.

On 1/23/15, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Personally, I don't think sniffing and a bit of repositioning is bad.  I'd
> not worry about it, unless it's really dramatic or persistent.  It sounds
> like the other handler is the problem.  Perhaps you could talk privately to
>
> the instructor and explain that if a dog is disruptive and the handler
> doesn't take action to remedy the situation that he could ask that the dog
> be removed.  Growling is something that needs immediate, decisive and
> thorough attention so it ends promptly.  Unless there is an immediate and
> obvious threat, I don't think growling should be tolerated in a public
> setting. If her dog is continually disruptive, then it is up to the
> instructor or school administration to address it.  I don't see it as your
> problem.  I would do what worked for me and not worry about anyone else.  If
>
> there are others in the class, including the other dog, that do things that
>
> are disruptive, let the instructor know and let him deal with it.  Like
> others have said, all you can do is be responsible for yourself and your
> dog.
>
> Julie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bridget Walker via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:29 PM
> To: Raven Tolliver ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in class
>
> Typically I would agree with most of you. These dogs are professionals and
> need to act like it. However, I can not see what the other dog does which is
>
> taking away from my learning experience. The only problem I had with Paulson
>
> was minor sniffing. I repositioned his head and I had no problem.
> I really hate to blame the other dog but,nThe other dog is my problem. He
> growled once and kept getting up. Paulson did not get up but crowded forward
>
> slightly at one point. I made him spin so his tail was to the dog. I put my
>
> foot near his hind quarters to keep track of where he was. He fell asleep
> from that point.
> The two dogs know each other and I do not want them playing. They have work
>
> to do.
> My problem is really not the doc as much as it is what the handler does with
>
> it.
> I was told I could talk to the professor about moving but the only place for
>
> me to move goes against my accommodations.
> I tried to talk to the student but she seems to think this a game of who has
>
> the better dog.  I just want to come to a common ground not fight. I think
> it is immature and I want to do the right thing.
>
> Bridget
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 22, 27 Heisei, at 5:18 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Rebecca, it's possible. My dog has definitely been the instigator.
>> Regardless, it still stands that she should do as much as she can to
>> keep her dog under control. So whether it's the other dog or not, all
>> she can do is mind her own dog. Also, it isn't unreasonable for her to
>> ask the other person to work with her on resolving the issue, and it
>> is still too bad that this woman is being inconsiderate.
>>
>>> On 1/22/15, Tami Jarvis via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Bridget,
>>>
>>> Hm... Is there a reason the other person can't take a different seat?
>>>
>>> I tend to agree with you. In a perfect world, the dogs would be perfect.
>>> Obviously, they are not, and it is a distraction to all. It seems the
>>> simplest solution would be the best. Sometimes dogs ping off of each
>>> other for whatever reason.
>>>
>>> Another option might be to get the dogs together after class to get
>>> acquainted and used to each other and to do a little training in having
>>> them be quiet together in the same space. If the other handler is
>>> standing on idealism instead of reality, however, that might not be
>>> workable. Hm...
>>>
>>> Hope you can work something out.
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>>> On 01/22/2015 12:15 PM, Bridget Walker via nagdu wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone
>>>> The topic says it all.
>>>> I am at war with a student who has a dog in one of my classes.
>>>> I have preferential seating because I have light sensitivity. I can not
>>>> sit near the window because it triggers migraines which I can sum up as
>>>> death.
>>>> I contacted the other student with the other dog in class who sits on a
>>>> diagonal across from me one desk back asking if she would be willing to
>>>> move. She could move one row and that would be great.
>>>> Having two dogs next to each other is distracting to both the dogs,
>>>> both
>>>> of us, and the whole class. I don't think it's right to have them
>>>> testing
>>>> each other all the time either. She says I should just expect the dogs
>>>> to
>>>> be good they are trained. They are also dogs we are taunting them day
>>>> in
>>>> and day out forcing them to sit next to each other.
>>>> What do you all think. She refuses to move and I can not. I would
>>>> change
>>>> my desk in a second if I could find one in the center of the room
>>>> somewhere.
>>>>  I tried to reason with her and we almost got in to an argument but, I
>>>> refuse to fight. I need to do what is right for my dog.
>>>> Bridget
>>>>
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