[nagdu] Dog in class

[Cindy Ray]

So go into class, put the dog with its tail to the other dog, and it should
go to sleep. There won't be a face off then. I wasn't suggesting the dogs
should play, but mine does better if they have had the chance to sniff each
other for a while. It usually is only important once. As for the my dog is
better than your dog, I have had a lot of experience with this, and I think
we all have to be very careful that we are not playing that game. I should
think after a few classes it would stop because the other dog would get used
to the idea that this dog is there. It is unfortunate that you and the other
individual cannot talk civilly about it.

Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridget Walker
via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:30 PM
To: Raven Tolliver; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in class

Typically I would agree with most of you. These dogs are professionals and
need to act like it. However, I can not see what the other dog does which is
taking away from my learning experience. The only problem I had with Paulson
was minor sniffing. I repositioned his head and I had no problem. 
I really hate to blame the other dog but,nThe other dog is my problem. He
growled once and kept getting up. Paulson did not get up but crowded forward
slightly at one point. I made him spin so his tail was to the dog. I put my
foot near his hind quarters to keep track of where he was. He fell asleep
from that point.
The two dogs know each other and I do not want them playing. They have work
to do. 
My problem is really not the doc as much as it is what the handler does with
it.
I was told I could talk to the professor about moving but the only place for
me to move goes against my accommodations. 
I tried to talk to the student but she seems to think this a game of who has
the better dog.  I just want to come to a common ground not fight. I think
it is immature and I want to do the right thing.

Bridget  

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 22, 27 Heisei, at 5:18 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Rebecca, it's possible. My dog has definitely been the instigator.
> Regardless, it still stands that she should do as much as she can to 
> keep her dog under control. So whether it's the other dog or not, all 
> she can do is mind her own dog. Also, it isn't unreasonable for her to 
> ask the other person to work with her on resolving the issue, and it 
> is still too bad that this woman is being inconsiderate.
> 
>> On 1/22/15, Tami Jarvis via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Bridget,
>> 
>> Hm... Is there a reason the other person can't take a different seat?
>> 
>> I tend to agree with you. In a perfect world, the dogs would be perfect.
>> Obviously, they are not, and it is a distraction to all. It seems the 
>> simplest solution would be the best. Sometimes dogs ping off of each 
>> other for whatever reason.
>> 
>> Another option might be to get the dogs together after class to get 
>> acquainted and used to each other and to do a little training in 
>> having them be quiet together in the same space. If the other handler 
>> is standing on idealism instead of reality, however, that might not 
>> be workable. Hm...
>> 
>> Hope you can work something out.
>> 
>> Tami
>> 
>>> On 01/22/2015 12:15 PM, Bridget Walker via nagdu wrote:
>>> Hi everyone
>>> The topic says it all.
>>> I am at war with a student who has a dog in one of my classes.
>>> I have preferential seating because I have light sensitivity. I can 
>>> not sit near the window because it triggers migraines which I can 
>>> sum up as death.
>>> I contacted the other student with the other dog in class who sits 
>>> on a diagonal across from me one desk back asking if she would be 
>>> willing to move. She could move one row and that would be great.
>>> Having two dogs next to each other is distracting to both the dogs, 
>>> both of us, and the whole class. I don't think it's right to have 
>>> them testing each other all the time either. She says I should just 
>>> expect the dogs to be good they are trained. They are also dogs we 
>>> are taunting them day in and day out forcing them to sit next to each
other.
>>> What do you all think. She refuses to move and I can not. I would 
>>> change my desk in a second if I could find one in the center of the 
>>> room somewhere.
>>>  I tried to reason with her and we almost got in to an argument but, 
>>> I refuse to fight. I need to do what is right for my dog.
>>> Bridget
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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