[nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

Buddy Brannan buddy at brannan.name
Fri Jul 10 12:30:47 UTC 2015


Marianne,

Your argument of concern for the well-being of the dogs doesn't make sense to me. How does a conditional ownership, or *no* ownership, protect the dog? How is a dog *less* protected by schools who transfer ownership directly to the handler? The often referenced Inky case, of course, is what Leader gives as its reason, or did in the past; yet, how long did that guy have Inky before he kicked Inky to death in a drunken rage? It seems to me that urging more thorough screening processes would be more likely to lead to better homes for the dogs. Moreover, there are already, at least in most places in the US, already legal recourse to have dogs removed from unsafe or abusive homes. Why do we need another one? More to the point, why do we need an *extra* one? Are blind people that much more likely to be abusive to their dogs? 

Again, let me stress that I don't believe most programs are in the business of capriciously removing dogs from their handlers. Let me also say that, yes, I absolutely agree that there are people who have no business having custody of, much less owning, a guide dog. But neither of those things makes it right for the schools to be able to remove a dog at its sole and absolute discretion for any reason. Just because this may not happen now, the opportunity for it to happen shouldn't even exist at all. 

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> On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Marianne Denning via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Tina, I also thought the vote was no but I thought that might have
> been where I was sitting.  I voted no because my concern is for the
> well being of the dog.  Who speaks up for and protects them?
> 
> On 7/9/15, Tina Thomas via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Well to be truthfully honest it never should've went to a rollcall states it
>> was obvious that the nose had it but hey somebody just couldn't take the
>> loss so they try to sneak it through by asking for a rollcall but thank God
>> in the end democracy and justice prevailed
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So this went to a counted vote by the state delegates?  Where can I go to
>>> see which state voted which way?
>>> 
>>> And was this announced on this list?  I honestly had no idea this
>>> resolution was being presented until it was way too late to talk to the
>>> people in my state about it.  Hopefully they know my thoughts on the
>>> subject, but I'm not there and it bothers me that I didn't know to be able
>>> to explain my views beforehand.
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> 
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