[nagdu] NAC

Sun Jul 12 19:13:33 UTC 2015

If there is more current information I have not found it. Please let me know if you do. Feel free to email me off list to save discussion band width at info at michaelhingson.com., 

Regards,

Michael Hingson

-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning [mailto:marianne at denningweb.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:33 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Michael Hingson
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC

I have read some things from the 90's but I hope we all have changed over time.  That is why I am looking for current information.

Michael, you may be correct.  I will ask someone with sight to look at the website and see what they can find out.  It really does say something if an organization like NAC has a website that is not accessible.

On 7/12/15, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> To add to this, the very fact that we cannot find information on the 
> NAC site should tell you a lot. I believe it is not just that the site 
> may not be JAWS accessible, but the information is simply not there.
>
> Nac's history is not to accredit good agencies and not to add value to 
> good agencies, or even bad ones. You will have to check Monitors from 
> the 70s and 80s to get more information. I recently read an article in 
> the Feb. 1986 Monitor and used portions of it in the resolution we 
> passed Thursday concerning Leader Dogs.  There is lots of stuff out 
> there that shows what Nac is and the lack of value it represents.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray 
> via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:02 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Cindy Ray
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>
> NAC accredits agencies mainly because it keeps their coffers filled. 
> They accredit them even though there have been things that happened 
> there that would cause no one else to accredit. When we went "NAC 
> tracking", they would not let our representatives into their meetings 
> to dialog with them because they didn't want to hear what they have to 
> say. You may have to dig back further in the Monitors and the like to 
> get information on the website.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne 
> Denning via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:57 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: [nagdu] NAC
>
> I knew that NFB has been aposed to NAC for many years but haven't 
> heard much about it until this year.  I decided to do some research on 
> the subject.  I went to the NAC website and tried to find the list of 
> members but their website is not accessible to JAWS.  I am running the 
> most recent release of JAWS.  So that didn't get me very far.  I then 
> read the most recent article in the Braille Monitor from 2009.  It was 
> an excellent article and gave me good information.  I would like to 
> know how many members NAC has at this time.  According to the article, 
> the last membership count was from 2003 and there were only 40 NAC 
> members.  There are over 440 agencies throughout the U.S. serving the 
> blind in 2009.  If anyone can provide this information I would 
> appreciate it.  I found it interesting that, at the time of the 
> writing of the article, Ohio and Florida had the most NAC accredited 
> organizations.  I believe some organizations in Ohio have not renewed 
> their accreditation.  I also believe CARF has an accreditation for 
> organizations that provide services to blind people.  Has NFB looked 
> at this accreditation?
>
> I have worked for an organization that was NAC accredited and it did a 
> fair job of providing services to blind people and an excellent job on 
> hiring qualified blind people in all areas.  I don't believe the NAC 
> accreditation is responsible for either service delivery or employment.
>
> Sorry about this long email and I hope someone can provide the 
> information I am seeking.
>
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053