[nagdu] NAC

Mon Jul 13 00:41:02 UTC 2015

I am also using the latest version of JAWS. I may call them tomorrow
and see if I can speak to anyone.  I will report on my findings.

On 7/12/15, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Actually, there appears to be nothing on the page. I use the latest version
> of JAWS. However, if there is nothing there then there is nothing there.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine
> via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:03 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Howard J. Levine
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>
> If you are not using the latest JAWS you may need to up grade.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
> via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 5:43 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>
> I was able to go to the website and find different links.  Any link I
> followed had no information on it.  The only one I could access was the
> blog
> and there were only a very few blog posts.
> I am trying to educate myself on NAC.  I would really like to know how many
> members they have at this time.  I believe any website should proudly
> provide this information.
> On 7/12/15, Tina Thomas via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hey Marianne- I did find NACC's website, but there is no up to date
>> substantive information there which is very disturbing to me.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
> Denning
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:33 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Marianne Denning
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>>
>> I have read some things from the 90's but I hope we all have changed
>> over time.  That is why I am looking for current information.
>>
>> Michael, you may be correct.  I will ask someone with sight to look at
>> the website and see what they can find out.  It really does say
>> something if
> an
>> organization like NAC has a website that is not accessible.
>>
>> On 7/12/15, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> To add to this, the very fact that we cannot find information on the
>>> NAC site should tell you a lot. I believe it is not just that the
>>> site may not be JAWS accessible, but the information is simply not
>>> there.
>>>
>>> Nac's history is not to accredit good agencies and not to add value
>>> to good agencies, or even bad ones. You will have to check Monitors
>>> from the 70s and 80s to get more information. I recently read an
>>> article in the Feb. 1986 Monitor and used portions of it in the
>>> resolution we passed Thursday concerning Leader Dogs.  There is lots
>>> of stuff out there that shows what Nac is and the lack of value it
> represents.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
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>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>> via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:02 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>>>
>>> NAC accredits agencies mainly because it keeps their coffers filled.
>>> They accredit them even though there have been things that happened
>>> there that would cause no one else to accredit. When we went "NAC
>>> tracking", they would not let our representatives into their meetings
>>> to dialog with them because they didn't want to hear what they have
>>> to say. You may have to dig back further in the Monitors and the like
>>> to get information on the website.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
>>> Denning via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:57 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Marianne Denning
>>> Subject: [nagdu] NAC
>>>
>>> I knew that NFB has been aposed to NAC for many years but haven't
>>> heard much about it until this year.  I decided to do some research
>>> on the subject.  I went to the NAC website and tried to find the list
>>> of members but their website is not accessible to JAWS.  I am running
>>> the most recent release of JAWS.  So that didn't get me very far.  I
>>> then read the most recent article in the Braille Monitor from 2009.
>>> It was an excellent article and gave me good information.  I would
>>> like to know how many members NAC has at this time.  According to the
>>> article, the last membership count was from 2003 and there were only
>>> 40 NAC members.  There are over 440 agencies throughout the U.S.
>>> serving the blind in 2009.  If anyone can provide this information I
>>> would appreciate it.  I found it interesting that, at the time of the
>>> writing of the article, Ohio and Florida had the most NAC accredited
>>> organizations.  I believe some organizations in Ohio have not renewed
>>> their accreditation.  I also believe CARF has an accreditation for
>>> organizations that provide services to blind people.  Has NFB looked
>>> at this accreditation?
>>>
>>> I have worked for an organization that was NAC accredited and it did
>>> a fair job of providing services to blind people and an excellent job
>>> on hiring qualified blind people in all areas.  I don't believe the
>>> NAC accreditation is responsible for either service delivery or
> employment.
>>>
>>> Sorry about this long email and I hope someone can provide the
>>> information I am seeking.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>> (513) 607-6053
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053