[nagdu] NAC

Mon Jul 13 02:22:36 UTC 2015

They have approx.. 40 members. I was able to access it.  

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
via nagdu
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 4:43 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Marianne Denning
Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC

I was able to go to the website and find different links.  Any link I
followed had no information on it.  The only one I could access was the blog
and there were only a very few blog posts.
I am trying to educate myself on NAC.  I would really like to know how many
members they have at this time.  I believe any website should proudly
provide this information.
On 7/12/15, Tina Thomas via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hey Marianne- I did find NACC's website, but there is no up to date 
> substantive information there which is very disturbing to me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne 
> Denning via nagdu
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:33 AM
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> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>
> I have read some things from the 90's but I hope we all have changed 
> over time.  That is why I am looking for current information.
>
> Michael, you may be correct.  I will ask someone with sight to look at 
> the website and see what they can find out.  It really does say 
> something if an organization like NAC has a website that is not
accessible.
>
> On 7/12/15, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> To add to this, the very fact that we cannot find information on the 
>> NAC site should tell you a lot. I believe it is not just that the 
>> site may not be JAWS accessible, but the information is simply not there.
>>
>> Nac's history is not to accredit good agencies and not to add value 
>> to good agencies, or even bad ones. You will have to check Monitors 
>> from the 70s and 80s to get more information. I recently read an 
>> article in the Feb. 1986 Monitor and used portions of it in the 
>> resolution we passed Thursday concerning Leader Dogs.  There is lots 
>> of stuff out there that shows what Nac is and the lack of value it
represents.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
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>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray 
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 11:02 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] NAC
>>
>> NAC accredits agencies mainly because it keeps their coffers filled.
>> They accredit them even though there have been things that happened 
>> there that would cause no one else to accredit. When we went "NAC 
>> tracking", they would not let our representatives into their meetings 
>> to dialog with them because they didn't want to hear what they have 
>> to say. You may have to dig back further in the Monitors and the like 
>> to get information on the website.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne 
>> Denning via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Marianne Denning
>> Subject: [nagdu] NAC
>>
>> I knew that NFB has been aposed to NAC for many years but haven't 
>> heard much about it until this year.  I decided to do some research 
>> on the subject.  I went to the NAC website and tried to find the list 
>> of members but their website is not accessible to JAWS.  I am running 
>> the most recent release of JAWS.  So that didn't get me very far.  I 
>> then read the most recent article in the Braille Monitor from 2009.  
>> It was an excellent article and gave me good information.  I would 
>> like to know how many members NAC has at this time.  According to the 
>> article, the last membership count was from 2003 and there were only 
>> 40 NAC members.  There are over 440 agencies throughout the U.S. 
>> serving the blind in 2009.  If anyone can provide this information I 
>> would appreciate it.  I found it interesting that, at the time of the 
>> writing of the article, Ohio and Florida had the most NAC accredited 
>> organizations.  I believe some organizations in Ohio have not renewed 
>> their accreditation.  I also believe CARF has an accreditation for 
>> organizations that provide services to blind people.  Has NFB looked 
>> at this accreditation?
>>
>> I have worked for an organization that was NAC accredited and it did 
>> a fair job of providing services to blind people and an excellent job 
>> on hiring qualified blind people in all areas.  I don't believe the 
>> NAC accreditation is responsible for either service delivery or
employment.
>>
>> Sorry about this long email and I hope someone can provide the 
>> information I am seeking.
>>
>> --
>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>> (513) 607-6053
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

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