[nagdu] Pilot's ownership policy was: Re: The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed

Tue Jul 14 20:58:33 UTC 2015

Yes, you have to send in a 2-week report, a 3-month report, and a six month 
report, but that's it.

Chantel.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aleeha Dudley via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Aleeha Dudley" <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Pilot's ownership policy was: Re: The membership has 
spoken,and I am disappointed

>I just spoke to a Pilot grad, and don’t they require you to submit vet 
>reports in order to keep your dog?
>> On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Debby Phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Schools that offer unconditional ownership are The Seeing Eye, Guide Dogs 
>> of America, I believe Freedom Guide Dogs, Guide Dog Foundation, and Pilot 
>> Dogs Inc.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Jody Ianuzzi via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I find it very disturbing that the membership voted on resolutions that 
>>> they didn't know anything about as with the guy dog ownership resolution 
>>> and NAC. There needs to be more explanation at the time of the vote or 
>>> preceding the convention.
>>>
>>> What guide dog schools offer ownership now?
>>>
>>> JODY 🐺
>>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> "There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." 
>>> DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:20 PM, margo and isis via nagdu 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> First of all, a resolution passed by our organization is policy. 
>>>> Second, I don't understand why this didn't pass because NFB is always 
>>>> fiddling with companies' and agencies' policies.  I do not understand 
>>>> why guide dog schools are put on pedestals higher than any other 
>>>> entity.  I also don't understand why NFB members are so against 
>>>> unconditional ownership.  In NFB, we have high expectations of our 
>>>> capabilities but not passing this resolution to me shows a lack of 
>>>> faith in blind people by many of our own membership.
>>>>
>>>> Margo and Isis
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer 
>>>> via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:27 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Shannon Dyer
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The membership has spoken, and I am disappointed
>>>>
>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>
>>>> I mean no disrespect here. I’m just seeking to understand the 
>>>> resolution better.
>>>>
>>>> So, if it had passed, how would this have affected the schools? For 
>>>> example, if I chose to go to a school that did not grant immediate 
>>>> ownership, how would this resolution have helped me? My understanding 
>>>> is that the guide dog schools are independent entities. How does this 
>>>> resolution get them to change their policies?
>>>>
>>>> Curiously,
>>>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Becky Sabo via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Tina, I agree it shouldn't not gone to the rollcall upstate. At
>>>>> least it did not go through. Becky Sabo
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:44 PM, Tina Thomas via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org 
>>>>> <mailto:nagdu at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well to be truthfully honest it never should've went to a rollcall
>>>>> states it was obvious that the nose had it but hey somebody just
>>>>> couldn't take the loss so they try to sneak it through by asking for a
>>>>> rollcall but thank God in the end democracy and justice prevailed
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So this went to a counted vote by the state delegates?  Where can I 
>>>>>> go to see which state voted which way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And was this announced on this list?  I honestly had no idea this 
>>>>>> resolution was being presented until it was way too late to talk to 
>>>>>> the people in my state about it.  Hopefully they know my thoughts on 
>>>>>> the subject, but I'm not there and it bothers me that I didn't know 
>>>>>> to be able to explain my views beforehand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>
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