[nagdu] dogs and canes

S L Johnson SLJohnson25 at comcast.net
Wed Jul 15 00:04:26 UTC 2015 

Hi,

Eva is still the same 53 pounds she was when I got her 15 months ago so, she 
can have treats.  I am careful how much food to feed her.  If she shows any 
sign of gaining weight, I cut the food a bit.  I actually use treat rewards 
when working her, especially when teaching her to find new places such as we 
did last week in the hotel.  I use very small low calorie treats for this. 
I give her medium bones to help keep her teeth and gums healthy.  Just as it 
is with people, everything is fine in moderation.  You don't have to deprive 
the dog, just be careful.  I've done this with all my dogs for forty years 
now and never had one of them be overweight.

Sandra and Eva, who loves her treats

-----Original Message----- 
From: Vivianna via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:03 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Vivianna
Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes

I say, how about some pats for the dogs and,, letâ?Ts keep our dogs nice and 
fit and lay off the treats.
and, i saw the leftovers from dogs relieving themselves in the hotel twice.

Vivianna

> On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:21 PM, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> wrote:
>
> Debby:
>
> That is a good idea.  Some discussion of tips and tricks for canes ad dogs
> and convention would definitely help ease the stress for the people and 
> the
> dogs.  Even though I was at the plaza, I went back to my room in the
> afternoon to let Eva eat, play, rest and relax.  Then we were off again. 
> By
> the end of the week, I could tell she was a bit stressed and tired.  At
> times I did wish for more volunteer help just so I could take the pressure
> off Eva and go sighted guide.  That is definitely something that is needed
> for next year.  Not having enough sighted help in a strange place adds to
> the stress.  I was
> amazed at how well Eva worked and am extremely proud of her.  I also 
> second
> what you said about the other conventions.  I used to be a member of that
> organization too and often encountered barking and growling dogs.  Also, 
> at
> the NFB we did not have dogs relieving themselves in the hotel.  So, as
> Debby said, give all the wonderful guide dogs an extra few treats and hugs
> for a job well done.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Marianne Denning via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:38 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes
>
> I did a few cane dances too.  We tried to avoid them but it didn't
> always work.  I think some tips and tricks for dog handlers and cane
> users might make the convention experience better.  My dog was very
> stressed by the end of the convention.
>
> I want to commend all of the dogs and their handlers.  I attended the
> other group's convention several years ago and almost every time we
> were in a large group one dog was start barking and then others would
> join in.  I did not hear one dog bark at any of the general sessions
> or other meetings I attended.  Everyone give your dog an extra treat
> for that.  (smile)
>
> On 7/14/15, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Eva and I hated all the canes too.  Sometimes they would walk three or
>> four
>>
>> people all in a row not leaving the dog a safe path to travel.  When we
>> were
>>
>> sitting in meetings the canes would hit Eva as she stayed quietly tucked
>> under my chair.  The canes were horrible in the exhibit hall.  I
>> especially
>>
>> got upset when the cane user would keep hitting Eva when I had told them
>> she
>>
>> was there.  I can't tell you how many times she hid her head behind my
>> legs
>>
>> to keep from being hit in the face by someone holding their cane too high
>> off the floor.  When  using a cane in a crowded convention around guide
>> dogs, the cane user should glide the cane instead of lifting it up and
>> tapping it.  Eva ad I hate hate hate canes, especially the extremely long
>> ones loved by so many cane users, they are a danger to the rest of us.  I
>> was tripped and fell many times because of the canes.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Debby Phillips via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:39 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users ;
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Debby Phillips ; jerupert at outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes
>>
>> Hi Jack, just seeing this.  We're home now.  Nova was a little
>> freaked out by all the canes, too.  I just tried to talk softly
>> to her all the time, telling her what a good girl she was, and
>> encouraging her to keep walking.  Her biggest issue was other
>> dogs.  She was always wanting to pull over to visit.  Who knows?
>> We might have come across each other.
>>
>> One suggestion for next time, and I did try to do this as much as
>> I could, but it was more difficult, as my husband and I were at
>> the Clarion.  That is, give your dog some breaks.  Go to your
>> room and just give him some down time; play with him a bit.  This
>> will relax him, and you too maybe.  Sometimes we would find a
>> semi quiet place to sit and just be together.  A friend of mine
>> also got an extra key to her room and we would go there sometimes
>> too just to give Nova a time out.  It's hard to do with a busy
>> convention schedule, but I decided a long time ago that if my dog
>> was stressed out, it was worth giving her time to settle down and
>> relax a little.  Before I came to NFB, I was in ACB and have been
>> going to conventions on and off since 1981.    Peace,    Debby
>> and Nova
>>
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