[nagdu] dogs and canes

larry d keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Jul 15 03:05:43 UTC 2015 

Holly weighs about 65 pounds. She has only fluctuated about a pound or two from 2008 until now. I suspect she loses a pound or two after a haircut! Unfortunately, I haven't made convention. One of these years I'd love to go! To meet y'all and to see what's up! Holly has never left presents anywhere except for a sidewalk or two on the way in to a place. I got a bag that covers that! 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Vivianna via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 7:04 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Vivianna
Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes

I say, how about some pats for the dogs and,, let’s keep our dogs nice and fit and lay off the treats.
and, i saw the leftovers from dogs relieving themselves in the hotel twice.

Vivianna

> On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:21 PM, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Debby:
> 
> That is a good idea.  Some discussion of tips and tricks for canes ad 
> dogs and convention would definitely help ease the stress for the 
> people and the dogs.  Even though I was at the plaza, I went back to 
> my room in the afternoon to let Eva eat, play, rest and relax.  Then 
> we were off again.  By the end of the week, I could tell she was a bit 
> stressed and tired.  At times I did wish for more volunteer help just 
> so I could take the pressure off Eva and go sighted guide.  That is 
> definitely something that is needed for next year.  Not having enough 
> sighted help in a strange place adds to the stress.  I was amazed at 
> how well Eva worked and am extremely proud of her.  I also second what 
> you said about the other conventions.  I used to be a member of that 
> organization too and often encountered barking and growling dogs.  
> Also, at the NFB we did not have dogs relieving themselves in the 
> hotel.  So, as Debby said, give all the wonderful guide dogs an extra 
> few treats and hugs for a job well done.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marianne Denning via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:38 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes
> 
> I did a few cane dances too.  We tried to avoid them but it didn't 
> always work.  I think some tips and tricks for dog handlers and cane 
> users might make the convention experience better.  My dog was very 
> stressed by the end of the convention.
> 
> I want to commend all of the dogs and their handlers.  I attended the 
> other group's convention several years ago and almost every time we 
> were in a large group one dog was start barking and then others would 
> join in.  I did not hear one dog bark at any of the general sessions 
> or other meetings I attended.  Everyone give your dog an extra treat 
> for that.  (smile)
> 
> On 7/14/15, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Eva and I hated all the canes too.  Sometimes they would walk three 
>> or four
>> 
>> people all in a row not leaving the dog a safe path to travel.  When 
>> we were
>> 
>> sitting in meetings the canes would hit Eva as she stayed quietly 
>> tucked under my chair.  The canes were horrible in the exhibit hall.  
>> I especially
>> 
>> got upset when the cane user would keep hitting Eva when I had told 
>> them she
>> 
>> was there.  I can't tell you how many times she hid her head behind 
>> my legs
>> 
>> to keep from being hit in the face by someone holding their cane too 
>> high off the floor.  When  using a cane in a crowded convention 
>> around guide dogs, the cane user should glide the cane instead of 
>> lifting it up and tapping it.  Eva ad I hate hate hate canes, 
>> especially the extremely long ones loved by so many cane users, they 
>> are a danger to the rest of us.  I was tripped and fell many times because of the canes.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Debby Phillips via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:39 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users ; 
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Debby Phillips ; jerupert at outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes
>> 
>> Hi Jack, just seeing this.  We're home now.  Nova was a little 
>> freaked out by all the canes, too.  I just tried to talk softly to 
>> her all the time, telling her what a good girl she was, and 
>> encouraging her to keep walking.  Her biggest issue was other dogs.  
>> She was always wanting to pull over to visit.  Who knows?
>> We might have come across each other.
>> 
>> One suggestion for next time, and I did try to do this as much as I 
>> could, but it was more difficult, as my husband and I were at the 
>> Clarion.  That is, give your dog some breaks.  Go to your room and 
>> just give him some down time; play with him a bit.  This will relax 
>> him, and you too maybe.  Sometimes we would find a semi quiet place 
>> to sit and just be together.  A friend of mine also got an extra key 
>> to her room and we would go there sometimes too just to give Nova a 
>> time out.  It's hard to do with a busy convention schedule, but I 
>> decided a long time ago that if my dog was stressed out, it was worth 
>> giving her time to settle down and relax a little.  Before I came to 
>> NFB, I was in ACB and have been
>> going to conventions on and off since 1981.    Peace,    Debby
>> and Nova
>> 
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