[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 123, Issue 11 follow
Jack Rupert
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Wed Jun 10 15:01:30 UTC 2015
I use the command follow when I am with my wife and she uses a scooter to
get around and Gazoo just know he is to follow her now.
We also use the command follow like when I am at the doctor's office and the
technician or nurse wants me to go to a certain room
it works really well to use follow and Gazoo will follow the person into the
room and then be able to find the seat. He was not taught
this command but he picked up on it really easily and I find it works fine
for me. I still have some vision so that is an advantage for me versus
someone who has no light vision at all but I do have a hearing problem and
most of my vision loss is side vision and close-up,
so I can at least see a shadow of the area in which I'm at.
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1. Re: follow Command (S L Johnson)
2. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
(Danielle Antoine)
3. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
(larry d keeler)
4. Re: follow Command (Debby Phillips)
5. Re: follow Command (Debby Phillips)
6. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
(Debby Phillips)
7. Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts (minh ha)
8. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck (Cindy Ray)
9. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck (Cindy Ray)
10. Re: Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts (Deanna Lewis)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:45:35 -0400
From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
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Hi Danielle,
I agree with Rox. I do follow the same way. Eva was not taught follow at
her guide dog school but, with consistent practice she very quickly became
an excellent follower. Having the person call her name to get her attention
has not caused any problems for us. I don't know what the deal is about not
mentioning the name. I think it gets the dog's attention so they will then
be expecting and listening for your next command. As I said, practice,
practice. In time, she will get better and more consistent. Good luck.
Sandra and Eva
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
Danielle,
I'm Deafblind and I'll tell you what I do.
I first set it up and have her follow. Then I have the person we're
following, check back every so often and if they notice her starting to lose
track, they will call her name, and that reminds her what she is supposed
to be doing.
I know for some people, it's a big no-no for other folks to know or use
their dog's name when she's working but my opinion is that we are all
different and I do what works for me, which may not work for someone else.
I have never had a problem with my dog getting distracted or putting me into
danger by someone calling her name.
Good luck!
Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Danielle Burton via nagdu
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> Even with people she knows she isn't folliing consistently. I can see
> which it could be that dangg but I highly doubt it will be with her.
> It's inside places she has the most trouble. Outside is easier for her.
> However, I need her to be able to do this because I cannot hear people
> from hardly any distance. So she needs to be able to consistently follow.
> She can do it when I can hearand also tell her directions but when I
> can't hear she can't do it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Danielle,
>>
>> Is it possible that she is following in a crowded area so she is
>> confused who to follow? Is she able to follow people you know better
>> than strangers? Are there particular places she is more consistent
>> than others?
>>
>> I think the danger in making following more fun than it is is the
>> possibility that she might then start following anyone...
>>
>> Daryl
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Danielle Burton via nagdu
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> NAGDU Mailing List <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Danielle Burton
>> <danielleburton94 at gmail.com> Sent: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:56:59 -0600 (MDT)
>> Subject: [nagdu] follow Command Hi evernone, I wrote to the list a few
>> months ago dvicefor on the folow command. My dog is not a natural
>> following and is still struggling with this skill. How can I make
>> following more motivating for her. I may be going to fast for hg to
>> grasp the concept? She has successfully done it some but not
consistently.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:28:01 -0500
From: Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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Still not happy they were separated though. She musta not known about the
ADA.
On 6/9/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> What a brave dog. I feel so badly. That poor woman and that poor dog.
> The woman was in shock; the dog wanted to stay with her. It actually
> makes me feel kind of awful, a little sick. I'm glad they will both be
fine.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
> Vandervest via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:19 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: William Vandervest
> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>
>
> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD
> Lynerd timelord09 at att.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:50 PM
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>
>
>>
>>
>> Service dog jumps between blind owner, bus Peter D. Kramer, The
>> (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News Corrections & Clarifications:
>> An earlier version
>>
>> of this report misstated the dog's name. BREWSTER, N.Y. When Figo the
>> service dog saw an oncoming mini school bus heading for Audrey Stone,
>> the blind woman
>>
>> he was trained to guide, the golden retriever's protective instincts
>> kicked
>> in: He threw himself at the closest part of the vehicle he could.
>> Police photos
>>
>> show the result: fur stuck to the front driver's side wheel and in
>> the middle of Michael Neuner Avenue in New York, where the bus came
>> to a stop after
>>
>> striking the pair. The driver of the Brewster school bus, carrying
>> two kindergartners to St. Lawrence O'Toole Childhood Learning Center,
>> told police he
>>
>> didn't see the pair crossing the road as they made their way home at
>> about
>> 8:15 Monday morning. But Figo saw the bus coming and leapt into action.
>> Stone,
>>
>> 62, suffered a fractured right elbow, three broken ribs, a fractured
>> ankle and a cut to her head in the accident, said Brewster Police
>> Chief John Del Gardo.
>>
>> Figo's leg was cut down to the bone, said Paul Schwartz, who manages
>> the Xtra Mart gas station at the intersection and ran to the scene to
help.
>> "I
>> don't
>>
>> know if (the driver) thought (Stone) was going to move faster, but it
>> looks like the dog tried to take most of the hit for her," said
>> Schwartz, who lives
>>
>> in Mahopac. When Schwartz reached the crash site Stone was bleeding
>> from her head and complaining of hip pain. "There were 15 EMTs and
>> people all around
>>
>> her and the dog didn't want to leave her side," Schwartz said. "He
>> was flopping over to her and she didn't want him to get away from
>> her, either.
>> She kept
>>
>> screaming, 'Where's Figo? Where's Figo? Where's Figo? We kept telling
>> her
>>
>> he
>> was fine. Schwartz and one of the EMTs bandaged Figo's right leg.
>> Paul Schwartz,
>>
>> manager of the Xtra Mart on North Main Street in Brewster. (Photo:
>> Peter D.
>> Kramer/The Journal News) "The dog was being a good sport, really calm,"
>> Schwartz
>>
>> said. "He sat with me the whole time. He was limping as we put him on
>> a big blanket on the sidewalk and it started to rain. He let us wrap
>> up his leg without
>>
>> any problem. He wasn't barking or crying or yelping. But he kept
>> pulling toward her. After she was put on a gurney and taken away, he
>> stopped doing that.
>>
>> He seemed a little lost after she left. There are rules against
>> transporting animals in ambulances. Schwartz said Stone, who lives on
>> North Main Street
>>
>> not far from the accident site, was "very upset as she was getting in
>> the ambulance that (Figo) wasn't with her. After she left, we put him
>> in the (Brewster
>>
>> Fire Department) truck and they took him to the vet. A staff member
>> at Middlebranch Veterinary in Paterson confirmed that Figo was being
>> treated there
>>
>> on Monday. Brewster Police Chief Del Gardo said later that the dog
>> was undergoing surgery on its leg. The bus had just come down Carmel
>> Avenue to North
>>
>> Main Street and was turning onto Michael Neuner Drive when it struck
>> Stone and Figo in the unpainted crosswalk. "She got about to the
>> middle of the street
>>
>> before the bus, which made a right on North Main and then a left onto
>> Michael Neuner," Del Gardo said. "(The driver's) eyes were oc'cup'ied
>> on the North
>>
>> Main traffic. The driver of the mini-bus was given a summons for
>> failing to yield to a pedestrian. Steven Moskowitz, Brewster's
>> assistant superintendent
>>
>> for human resources and technology, said the driver was taken to
>> Partners
>>
>> in
>> Safety in White Plains for routine post-accident drug and alcohol
>> testing,
>>
>> the results of which should be available later in the week. The
>> driver was taken off duty while an investigation is conducted. Part
>> of that investigation
>>
>> will be a review of dashboard cameras in the mini-bus and on another
>> bus that was in the area at the time, Moskowitz said. Moskowitz, who
>> would not discuss
>>
>> the bus driver's driving history, said the two students were
>> transported to O'Toole by another bus and their parents were notified
>> of the accident.
>> Del
>>
>> Gardo said the bus wasn't traveling fast and stopped without leaving
>> skidmarks on the pavement. "The dog took a lot of the blow," Del
>> Gardo said.
>> "And
>>
>> he did not want to leave her side. He stood right with her. He was
>> there to save her. The chief said Stone, interviewed in her hospital
>> bed, was happy
>>
>> to hear that Figo was being treated and that friends are working out
>> the details of the dog's care while Stone recovers.
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:20:23 -0400
From: "larry d keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
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Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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Well, sometimes for medical care and such, it may be necisary to separate
them. It can be easier to treat them separately.
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Antoine
via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:28 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Danielle Antoine
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
Still not happy they were separated though. She musta not known about the
ADA.
On 6/9/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> What a brave dog. I feel so badly. That poor woman and that poor dog.
> The woman was in shock; the dog wanted to stay with her. It actually
> makes me feel kind of awful, a little sick. I'm glad they will both be
fine.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
> Vandervest via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:19 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: William Vandervest
> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>
>
> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD
> Lynerd timelord09 at att.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:50 PM
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>
>
>>
>>
>> Service dog jumps between blind owner, bus Peter D. Kramer, The
>> (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News Corrections & Clarifications:
>> An earlier version
>>
>> of this report misstated the dog's name. BREWSTER, N.Y. When Figo the
>> service dog saw an oncoming mini school bus heading for Audrey Stone,
>> the blind woman
>>
>> he was trained to guide, the golden retriever's protective instincts
>> kicked
>> in: He threw himself at the closest part of the vehicle he could.
>> Police photos
>>
>> show the result: fur stuck to the front driver's side wheel and in
>> the middle of Michael Neuner Avenue in New York, where the bus came
>> to a stop after
>>
>> striking the pair. The driver of the Brewster school bus, carrying
>> two kindergartners to St. Lawrence O'Toole Childhood Learning Center,
>> told police he
>>
>> didn't see the pair crossing the road as they made their way home at
>> about
>> 8:15 Monday morning. But Figo saw the bus coming and leapt into action.
>> Stone,
>>
>> 62, suffered a fractured right elbow, three broken ribs, a fractured
>> ankle and a cut to her head in the accident, said Brewster Police
>> Chief John Del Gardo.
>>
>> Figo's leg was cut down to the bone, said Paul Schwartz, who manages
>> the Xtra Mart gas station at the intersection and ran to the scene to
help.
>> "I
>> don't
>>
>> know if (the driver) thought (Stone) was going to move faster, but it
>> looks like the dog tried to take most of the hit for her," said
>> Schwartz, who lives
>>
>> in Mahopac. When Schwartz reached the crash site Stone was bleeding
>> from her head and complaining of hip pain. "There were 15 EMTs and
>> people all around
>>
>> her and the dog didn't want to leave her side," Schwartz said. "He
>> was flopping over to her and she didn't want him to get away from
>> her, either.
>> She kept
>>
>> screaming, 'Where's Figo? Where's Figo? Where's Figo? We kept telling
>> her
>>
>> he
>> was fine. Schwartz and one of the EMTs bandaged Figo's right leg.
>> Paul Schwartz,
>>
>> manager of the Xtra Mart on North Main Street in Brewster. (Photo:
>> Peter D.
>> Kramer/The Journal News) "The dog was being a good sport, really calm,"
>> Schwartz
>>
>> said. "He sat with me the whole time. He was limping as we put him on
>> a big blanket on the sidewalk and it started to rain. He let us wrap
>> up his leg without
>>
>> any problem. He wasn't barking or crying or yelping. But he kept
>> pulling toward her. After she was put on a gurney and taken away, he
>> stopped doing that.
>>
>> He seemed a little lost after she left. There are rules against
>> transporting animals in ambulances. Schwartz said Stone, who lives on
>> North Main Street
>>
>> not far from the accident site, was "very upset as she was getting in
>> the ambulance that (Figo) wasn't with her. After she left, we put him
>> in the (Brewster
>>
>> Fire Department) truck and they took him to the vet. A staff member
>> at Middlebranch Veterinary in Paterson confirmed that Figo was being
>> treated there
>>
>> on Monday. Brewster Police Chief Del Gardo said later that the dog
>> was undergoing surgery on its leg. The bus had just come down Carmel
>> Avenue to North
>>
>> Main Street and was turning onto Michael Neuner Drive when it struck
>> Stone and Figo in the unpainted crosswalk. "She got about to the
>> middle of the street
>>
>> before the bus, which made a right on North Main and then a left onto
>> Michael Neuner," Del Gardo said. "(The driver's) eyes were oc'cup'ied
>> on the North
>>
>> Main traffic. The driver of the mini-bus was given a summons for
>> failing to yield to a pedestrian. Steven Moskowitz, Brewster's
>> assistant superintendent
>>
>> for human resources and technology, said the driver was taken to
>> Partners
>>
>> in
>> Safety in White Plains for routine post-accident drug and alcohol
>> testing,
>>
>> the results of which should be available later in the week. The
>> driver was taken off duty while an investigation is conducted. Part
>> of that investigation
>>
>> will be a review of dashboard cameras in the mini-bus and on another
>> bus that was in the area at the time, Moskowitz said. Moskowitz, who
>> would not discuss
>>
>> the bus driver's driving history, said the two students were
>> transported to O'Toole by another bus and their parents were notified
>> of the accident.
>> Del
>>
>> Gardo said the bus wasn't traveling fast and stopped without leaving
>> skidmarks on the pavement. "The dog took a lot of the blow," Del
>> Gardo said.
>> "And
>>
>> he did not want to leave her side. He stood right with her. He was
>> there to save her. The chief said Stone, interviewed in her hospital
>> bed, was happy
>>
>> to hear that Figo was being treated and that friends are working out
>> the details of the dog's care while Stone recovers.
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:10:35 -0700
From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
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One thing that I learned while in class, which was new is to actually say
Nova, follow forward, or follow right, or follow left. That seems to help.
It isn't something that I do tons of, following. They don't really guide
when following, because they tend to just start looking at the person
they're following, which is why giving them commands is important. Then
they still focus
on you, and not just the person they're following. Peace,
Debby and Nova
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:10:37 -0700
From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
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Then you need to tell people to be more verbal, and perhaps you might want
to heel her sometimes in places where it's hard to hear and go sighted
guide. You all might be more comfortable. I don't like to have my dogs
follow for long distances, so I tend not to use the follow command very
much, except in restaurants when being shone a table. If it's very crowded
and noisy, then
it's hard for the dogs to know who they should be following.
Peace, Debby and Nova
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:10:43 -0700
From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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Well, remember Danielle, her dog was also hurt and needed medical attention
as well. I'm just sorry that there weren't better communications, but am
sure things are working out okay. Figo
needs to heal, as well. Debby and Nova
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 03:44:27 -0400
From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nagdu] Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts
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Hello all,
I hope this message is not off topic and is appropriate and relevant to the
list. I, along with a few other GDB graduates are forming an alumni chapter
here in Massachusetts. If you are a GDB grad living in Massachusetts, I
would love for you to email me if you are interested in being a part of the
group. You can also participate if you are interested in GDB in any way or
have had a GDB guide and wish to stay connected or want to learn more about
GDB and their guide dogs. We just want this group to be a fun way for
handlers to connect and have a good time socializing with one another.
Please feel free to pass my message along to anyone you know living in
Massachusetts that would benefit from this. I can be reached at
minh.ha927 at gmail.com
Thanks,
Minh
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Minh Ha
Boston College | Lynch School of Education '16 minh.ha927 at gmail.com
"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their
dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 05:40:27 -0500
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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I think in this case there was no choice. But the woman would be upset
because she didn't know the extent of her own injuries or the dog's. It's
just one of life's lemons, but the good news is they will be all right.
Cindy
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of larry d keeler
via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:20 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: larry d keeler
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
Well, sometimes for medical care and such, it may be necisary to separate
them. It can be easier to treat them separately.
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Antoine
via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:28 PM
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Cc: Danielle Antoine
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
Still not happy they were separated though. She musta not known about the
ADA.
On 6/9/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> What a brave dog. I feel so badly. That poor woman and that poor dog.
> The woman was in shock; the dog wanted to stay with her. It actually
> makes me feel kind of awful, a little sick. I'm glad they will both be
fine.
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
> Vandervest via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:19 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: William Vandervest
> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>
>
> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD
> Lynerd timelord09 at att.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:50 PM
> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>
>
>>
>>
>> Service dog jumps between blind owner, bus Peter D. Kramer, The
>> (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News Corrections & Clarifications:
>> An earlier version
>>
>> of this report misstated the dog's name. BREWSTER, N.Y. When Figo the
>> service dog saw an oncoming mini school bus heading for Audrey Stone,
>> the blind woman
>>
>> he was trained to guide, the golden retriever's protective instincts
>> kicked
>> in: He threw himself at the closest part of the vehicle he could.
>> Police photos
>>
>> show the result: fur stuck to the front driver's side wheel and in
>> the middle of Michael Neuner Avenue in New York, where the bus came
>> to a stop after
>>
>> striking the pair. The driver of the Brewster school bus, carrying
>> two kindergartners to St. Lawrence O'Toole Childhood Learning Center,
>> told police he
>>
>> didn't see the pair crossing the road as they made their way home at
>> about
>> 8:15 Monday morning. But Figo saw the bus coming and leapt into action.
>> Stone,
>>
>> 62, suffered a fractured right elbow, three broken ribs, a fractured
>> ankle and a cut to her head in the accident, said Brewster Police
>> Chief John Del Gardo.
>>
>> Figo's leg was cut down to the bone, said Paul Schwartz, who manages
>> the Xtra Mart gas station at the intersection and ran to the scene to
help.
>> "I
>> don't
>>
>> know if (the driver) thought (Stone) was going to move faster, but it
>> looks like the dog tried to take most of the hit for her," said
>> Schwartz, who lives
>>
>> in Mahopac. When Schwartz reached the crash site Stone was bleeding
>> from her head and complaining of hip pain. "There were 15 EMTs and
>> people all around
>>
>> her and the dog didn't want to leave her side," Schwartz said. "He
>> was flopping over to her and she didn't want him to get away from
>> her, either.
>> She kept
>>
>> screaming, 'Where's Figo? Where's Figo? Where's Figo? We kept telling
>> her
>>
>> he
>> was fine. Schwartz and one of the EMTs bandaged Figo's right leg.
>> Paul Schwartz,
>>
>> manager of the Xtra Mart on North Main Street in Brewster. (Photo:
>> Peter D.
>> Kramer/The Journal News) "The dog was being a good sport, really calm,"
>> Schwartz
>>
>> said. "He sat with me the whole time. He was limping as we put him on
>> a big blanket on the sidewalk and it started to rain. He let us wrap
>> up his leg without
>>
>> any problem. He wasn't barking or crying or yelping. But he kept
>> pulling toward her. After she was put on a gurney and taken away, he
>> stopped doing that.
>>
>> He seemed a little lost after she left. There are rules against
>> transporting animals in ambulances. Schwartz said Stone, who lives on
>> North Main Street
>>
>> not far from the accident site, was "very upset as she was getting in
>> the ambulance that (Figo) wasn't with her. After she left, we put him
>> in the (Brewster
>>
>> Fire Department) truck and they took him to the vet. A staff member
>> at Middlebranch Veterinary in Paterson confirmed that Figo was being
>> treated there
>>
>> on Monday. Brewster Police Chief Del Gardo said later that the dog
>> was undergoing surgery on its leg. The bus had just come down Carmel
>> Avenue to North
>>
>> Main Street and was turning onto Michael Neuner Drive when it struck
>> Stone and Figo in the unpainted crosswalk. "She got about to the
>> middle of the street
>>
>> before the bus, which made a right on North Main and then a left onto
>> Michael Neuner," Del Gardo said. "(The driver's) eyes were oc'cup'ied
>> on the North
>>
>> Main traffic. The driver of the mini-bus was given a summons for
>> failing to yield to a pedestrian. Steven Moskowitz, Brewster's
>> assistant superintendent
>>
>> for human resources and technology, said the driver was taken to
>> Partners
>>
>> in
>> Safety in White Plains for routine post-accident drug and alcohol
>> testing,
>>
>> the results of which should be available later in the week. The
>> driver was taken off duty while an investigation is conducted. Part
>> of that investigation
>>
>> will be a review of dashboard cameras in the mini-bus and on another
>> bus that was in the area at the time, Moskowitz said. Moskowitz, who
>> would not discuss
>>
>> the bus driver's driving history, said the two students were
>> transported to O'Toole by another bus and their parents were notified
>> of the accident.
>> Del
>>
>> Gardo said the bus wasn't traveling fast and stopped without leaving
>> skidmarks on the pavement. "The dog took a lot of the blow," Del
>> Gardo said.
>> "And
>>
>> he did not want to leave her side. He stood right with her. He was
>> there to save her. The chief said Stone, interviewed in her hospital
>> bed, was happy
>>
>> to hear that Figo was being treated and that friends are working out
>> the details of the dog's care while Stone recovers.
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 05:45:30 -0500
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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I think they tried to reassure her. She had to be in pain and frightened and
a host of other things that made her react in ways she wouldn't have if she
had been calm. It was just an awful situation, but she's going to be all
right and so is the dog.
Cindy
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debby Phillips
via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:11 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users;
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Cc: Debby Phillips
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
Well, remember Danielle, her dog was also hurt and needed medical attention
as well. I'm just sorry that there weren't better communications, but am
sure things are working out okay. Figo
needs to heal, as well. Debby and Nova
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:56:43 +0000
From: Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts
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Minh,
I think is a great idea! I am President of the GDB Alumni Chapter for Ohio,
Kentucky, and Indiana and we have a great group of people. We meet once a
month via conference call, and try to meet in person at least once per year.
If you need any tips or pointers, please let me know. You can reach me
off-list at: Deannakay03 at gmail.com Wishing you the best with this endeavor!
Deanna and Mambo
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:44 AM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Cc: minh ha
Subject: [nagdu] Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts
Hello all,
I hope this message is not off topic and is appropriate and relevant to the
list. I, along with a few other GDB graduates are forming an alumni chapter
here in Massachusetts. If you are a GDB grad living in Massachusetts, I
would love for you to email me if you are interested in being a part of the
group. You can also participate if you are interested in GDB in any way or
have had a GDB guide and wish to stay connected or want to learn more about
GDB and their guide dogs. We just want this group to be a fun way for
handlers to connect and have a good time socializing with one another.
Please feel free to pass my message along to anyone you know living in
Massachusetts that would benefit from this. I can be reached at
minh.ha927 at gmail.com
Thanks,
Minh
--
Minh Ha
Boston College | Lynch School of Education '16 minh.ha927 at gmail.com
"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their
dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
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