[nagdu] nagdu Digest, Vol 123, Issue 11 follow
Sheila Leigland
sheila.leigland at gmail.com
Wed Jun 10 15:26:07 UTC 2015
not all schools teach the follow command but we have both taught it to
our dogs and it works well for us.
On 6/10/2015 9:03 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via nagdu wrote:
> Gazoo, what a great name. I'm curious I was always under the impression that guy dog school's top the "follow "command. Is this not always true?
>
> Thanks,
> Nancy VanderBrink
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 10, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Jack Rupert via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I use the command follow when I am with my wife and she uses a scooter to
>> get around and Gazoo just know he is to follow her now.
>> We also use the command follow like when I am at the doctor's office and the
>> technician or nurse wants me to go to a certain room
>> it works really well to use follow and Gazoo will follow the person into the
>> room and then be able to find the seat. He was not taught
>> this command but he picked up on it really easily and I find it works fine
>> for me. I still have some vision so that is an advantage for me versus
>> someone who has no light vision at all but I do have a hearing problem and
>> most of my vision loss is side vision and close-up,
>> so I can at least see a shadow of the area in which I'm at.
>>
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>> 1. Re: follow Command (S L Johnson)
>> 2. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>> (Danielle Antoine)
>> 3. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>> (larry d keeler)
>> 4. Re: follow Command (Debby Phillips)
>> 5. Re: follow Command (Debby Phillips)
>> 6. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>> (Debby Phillips)
>> 7. Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts (minh ha)
>> 8. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck (Cindy Ray)
>> 9. Re: Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck (Cindy Ray)
>> 10. Re: Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts (Deanna Lewis)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:45:35 -0400
>> From: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
>> Message-ID: <2E27AFD198184181BC86FBFB3D3E133D at SLJohnson>
>>
>> Hi Danielle,
>>
>> I agree with Rox. I do follow the same way. Eva was not taught follow at
>> her guide dog school but, with consistent practice she very quickly became
>> an excellent follower. Having the person call her name to get her attention
>> has not caused any problems for us. I don't know what the deal is about not
>> mentioning the name. I think it gets the dog's attention so they will then
>> be expecting and listening for your next command. As I said, practice,
>> practice. In time, she will get better and more consistent. Good luck.
>>
>> Sandra and Eva
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: The Pawpower Pack via nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:10 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: The Pawpower Pack
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
>>
>> Danielle,
>> I'm Deafblind and I'll tell you what I do.
>> I first set it up and have her follow. Then I have the person we're
>> following, check back every so often and if they notice her starting to lose
>> track, they will call her name, and that reminds her what she is supposed
>> to be doing.
>> I know for some people, it's a big no-no for other folks to know or use
>> their dog's name when she's working but my opinion is that we are all
>> different and I do what works for me, which may not work for someone else.
>> I have never had a problem with my dog getting distracted or putting me into
>> danger by someone calling her name.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Danielle Burton via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Even with people she knows she isn't folliing consistently. I can see
>>> which it could be that dangg but I highly doubt it will be with her.
>>> It's inside places she has the most trouble. Outside is easier for her.
>>> However, I need her to be able to do this because I cannot hear people
>>> from hardly any distance. So she needs to be able to consistently follow.
>>> She can do it when I can hearand also tell her directions but when I
>>> can't hear she can't do it.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Danielle,
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that she is following in a crowded area so she is
>>>> confused who to follow? Is she able to follow people you know better
>>>> than strangers? Are there particular places she is more consistent
>>>> than others?
>>>>
>>>> I think the danger in making following more fun than it is is the
>>>> possibility that she might then start following anyone...
>>>>
>>>> Daryl
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Danielle Burton via nagdu
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> NAGDU Mailing List <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Danielle Burton
>>>> <danielleburton94 at gmail.com> Sent: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:56:59 -0600 (MDT)
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] follow Command Hi evernone, I wrote to the list a few
>>>> months ago dvicefor on the folow command. My dog is not a natural
>>>> following and is still struggling with this skill. How can I make
>>>> following more motivating for her. I may be going to fast for hg to
>>>> grasp the concept? She has successfully done it some but not
>> consistently.
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:28:01 -0500
>> From: Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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>> Still not happy they were separated though. She musta not known about the
>> ADA.
>>
>>> On 6/9/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> What a brave dog. I feel so badly. That poor woman and that poor dog.
>>> The woman was in shock; the dog wanted to stay with her. It actually
>>> makes me feel kind of awful, a little sick. I'm glad they will both be
>> fine.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
>>> Vandervest via nagdu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:19 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: William Vandervest
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>>
>>>
>>> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD
>>> Lynerd timelord09 at att.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Service dog jumps between blind owner, bus Peter D. Kramer, The
>>>> (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News Corrections & Clarifications:
>>>> An earlier version
>>>>
>>>> of this report misstated the dog's name. BREWSTER, N.Y. When Figo the
>>>> service dog saw an oncoming mini school bus heading for Audrey Stone,
>>>> the blind woman
>>>>
>>>> he was trained to guide, the golden retriever's protective instincts
>>>> kicked
>>>> in: He threw himself at the closest part of the vehicle he could.
>>>> Police photos
>>>>
>>>> show the result: fur stuck to the front driver's side wheel and in
>>>> the middle of Michael Neuner Avenue in New York, where the bus came
>>>> to a stop after
>>>>
>>>> striking the pair. The driver of the Brewster school bus, carrying
>>>> two kindergartners to St. Lawrence O'Toole Childhood Learning Center,
>>>> told police he
>>>>
>>>> didn't see the pair crossing the road as they made their way home at
>>>> about
>>>> 8:15 Monday morning. But Figo saw the bus coming and leapt into action.
>>>> Stone,
>>>>
>>>> 62, suffered a fractured right elbow, three broken ribs, a fractured
>>>> ankle and a cut to her head in the accident, said Brewster Police
>>>> Chief John Del Gardo.
>>>>
>>>> Figo's leg was cut down to the bone, said Paul Schwartz, who manages
>>>> the Xtra Mart gas station at the intersection and ran to the scene to
>> help.
>>>> "I
>>>> don't
>>>>
>>>> know if (the driver) thought (Stone) was going to move faster, but it
>>>> looks like the dog tried to take most of the hit for her," said
>>>> Schwartz, who lives
>>>>
>>>> in Mahopac. When Schwartz reached the crash site Stone was bleeding
>>>> from her head and complaining of hip pain. "There were 15 EMTs and
>>>> people all around
>>>>
>>>> her and the dog didn't want to leave her side," Schwartz said. "He
>>>> was flopping over to her and she didn't want him to get away from
>>>> her, either.
>>>> She kept
>>>>
>>>> screaming, 'Where's Figo? Where's Figo? Where's Figo? We kept telling
>>>> her
>>>>
>>>> he
>>>> was fine. Schwartz and one of the EMTs bandaged Figo's right leg.
>>>> Paul Schwartz,
>>>>
>>>> manager of the Xtra Mart on North Main Street in Brewster. (Photo:
>>>> Peter D.
>>>> Kramer/The Journal News) "The dog was being a good sport, really calm,"
>>>> Schwartz
>>>>
>>>> said. "He sat with me the whole time. He was limping as we put him on
>>>> a big blanket on the sidewalk and it started to rain. He let us wrap
>>>> up his leg without
>>>>
>>>> any problem. He wasn't barking or crying or yelping. But he kept
>>>> pulling toward her. After she was put on a gurney and taken away, he
>>>> stopped doing that.
>>>>
>>>> He seemed a little lost after she left. There are rules against
>>>> transporting animals in ambulances. Schwartz said Stone, who lives on
>>>> North Main Street
>>>>
>>>> not far from the accident site, was "very upset as she was getting in
>>>> the ambulance that (Figo) wasn't with her. After she left, we put him
>>>> in the (Brewster
>>>>
>>>> Fire Department) truck and they took him to the vet. A staff member
>>>> at Middlebranch Veterinary in Paterson confirmed that Figo was being
>>>> treated there
>>>>
>>>> on Monday. Brewster Police Chief Del Gardo said later that the dog
>>>> was undergoing surgery on its leg. The bus had just come down Carmel
>>>> Avenue to North
>>>>
>>>> Main Street and was turning onto Michael Neuner Drive when it struck
>>>> Stone and Figo in the unpainted crosswalk. "She got about to the
>>>> middle of the street
>>>>
>>>> before the bus, which made a right on North Main and then a left onto
>>>> Michael Neuner," Del Gardo said. "(The driver's) eyes were oc'cup'ied
>>>> on the North
>>>>
>>>> Main traffic. The driver of the mini-bus was given a summons for
>>>> failing to yield to a pedestrian. Steven Moskowitz, Brewster's
>>>> assistant superintendent
>>>>
>>>> for human resources and technology, said the driver was taken to
>>>> Partners
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>> Safety in White Plains for routine post-accident drug and alcohol
>>>> testing,
>>>>
>>>> the results of which should be available later in the week. The
>>>> driver was taken off duty while an investigation is conducted. Part
>>>> of that investigation
>>>>
>>>> will be a review of dashboard cameras in the mini-bus and on another
>>>> bus that was in the area at the time, Moskowitz said. Moskowitz, who
>>>> would not discuss
>>>>
>>>> the bus driver's driving history, said the two students were
>>>> transported to O'Toole by another bus and their parents were notified
>>>> of the accident.
>>>> Del
>>>>
>>>> Gardo said the bus wasn't traveling fast and stopped without leaving
>>>> skidmarks on the pavement. "The dog took a lot of the blow," Del
>>>> Gardo said.
>>>> "And
>>>>
>>>> he did not want to leave her side. He stood right with her. He was
>>>> there to save her. The chief said Stone, interviewed in her hospital
>>>> bed, was happy
>>>>
>>>> to hear that Figo was being treated and that friends are working out
>>>> the details of the dog's care while Stone recovers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 23:20:23 -0400
>> From: "larry d keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>> Message-ID: <000901d0a32c$63c72b30$2b558190$@comcast.net>
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>> Well, sometimes for medical care and such, it may be necisary to separate
>> them. It can be easier to treat them separately.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Antoine
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:28 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Danielle Antoine
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>
>> Still not happy they were separated though. She musta not known about the
>> ADA.
>>
>>> On 6/9/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> What a brave dog. I feel so badly. That poor woman and that poor dog.
>>> The woman was in shock; the dog wanted to stay with her. It actually
>>> makes me feel kind of awful, a little sick. I'm glad they will both be
>> fine.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
>>> Vandervest via nagdu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:19 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: William Vandervest
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>>
>>>
>>> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD
>>> Lynerd timelord09 at att.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Service dog jumps between blind owner, bus Peter D. Kramer, The
>>>> (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News Corrections & Clarifications:
>>>> An earlier version
>>>>
>>>> of this report misstated the dog's name. BREWSTER, N.Y. When Figo the
>>>> service dog saw an oncoming mini school bus heading for Audrey Stone,
>>>> the blind woman
>>>>
>>>> he was trained to guide, the golden retriever's protective instincts
>>>> kicked
>>>> in: He threw himself at the closest part of the vehicle he could.
>>>> Police photos
>>>>
>>>> show the result: fur stuck to the front driver's side wheel and in
>>>> the middle of Michael Neuner Avenue in New York, where the bus came
>>>> to a stop after
>>>>
>>>> striking the pair. The driver of the Brewster school bus, carrying
>>>> two kindergartners to St. Lawrence O'Toole Childhood Learning Center,
>>>> told police he
>>>>
>>>> didn't see the pair crossing the road as they made their way home at
>>>> about
>>>> 8:15 Monday morning. But Figo saw the bus coming and leapt into action.
>>>> Stone,
>>>>
>>>> 62, suffered a fractured right elbow, three broken ribs, a fractured
>>>> ankle and a cut to her head in the accident, said Brewster Police
>>>> Chief John Del Gardo.
>>>>
>>>> Figo's leg was cut down to the bone, said Paul Schwartz, who manages
>>>> the Xtra Mart gas station at the intersection and ran to the scene to
>> help.
>>>> "I
>>>> don't
>>>>
>>>> know if (the driver) thought (Stone) was going to move faster, but it
>>>> looks like the dog tried to take most of the hit for her," said
>>>> Schwartz, who lives
>>>>
>>>> in Mahopac. When Schwartz reached the crash site Stone was bleeding
>>>> from her head and complaining of hip pain. "There were 15 EMTs and
>>>> people all around
>>>>
>>>> her and the dog didn't want to leave her side," Schwartz said. "He
>>>> was flopping over to her and she didn't want him to get away from
>>>> her, either.
>>>> She kept
>>>>
>>>> screaming, 'Where's Figo? Where's Figo? Where's Figo? We kept telling
>>>> her
>>>>
>>>> he
>>>> was fine. Schwartz and one of the EMTs bandaged Figo's right leg.
>>>> Paul Schwartz,
>>>>
>>>> manager of the Xtra Mart on North Main Street in Brewster. (Photo:
>>>> Peter D.
>>>> Kramer/The Journal News) "The dog was being a good sport, really calm,"
>>>> Schwartz
>>>>
>>>> said. "He sat with me the whole time. He was limping as we put him on
>>>> a big blanket on the sidewalk and it started to rain. He let us wrap
>>>> up his leg without
>>>>
>>>> any problem. He wasn't barking or crying or yelping. But he kept
>>>> pulling toward her. After she was put on a gurney and taken away, he
>>>> stopped doing that.
>>>>
>>>> He seemed a little lost after she left. There are rules against
>>>> transporting animals in ambulances. Schwartz said Stone, who lives on
>>>> North Main Street
>>>>
>>>> not far from the accident site, was "very upset as she was getting in
>>>> the ambulance that (Figo) wasn't with her. After she left, we put him
>>>> in the (Brewster
>>>>
>>>> Fire Department) truck and they took him to the vet. A staff member
>>>> at Middlebranch Veterinary in Paterson confirmed that Figo was being
>>>> treated there
>>>>
>>>> on Monday. Brewster Police Chief Del Gardo said later that the dog
>>>> was undergoing surgery on its leg. The bus had just come down Carmel
>>>> Avenue to North
>>>>
>>>> Main Street and was turning onto Michael Neuner Drive when it struck
>>>> Stone and Figo in the unpainted crosswalk. "She got about to the
>>>> middle of the street
>>>>
>>>> before the bus, which made a right on North Main and then a left onto
>>>> Michael Neuner," Del Gardo said. "(The driver's) eyes were oc'cup'ied
>>>> on the North
>>>>
>>>> Main traffic. The driver of the mini-bus was given a summons for
>>>> failing to yield to a pedestrian. Steven Moskowitz, Brewster's
>>>> assistant superintendent
>>>>
>>>> for human resources and technology, said the driver was taken to
>>>> Partners
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>> Safety in White Plains for routine post-accident drug and alcohol
>>>> testing,
>>>>
>>>> the results of which should be available later in the week. The
>>>> driver was taken off duty while an investigation is conducted. Part
>>>> of that investigation
>>>>
>>>> will be a review of dashboard cameras in the mini-bus and on another
>>>> bus that was in the area at the time, Moskowitz said. Moskowitz, who
>>>> would not discuss
>>>>
>>>> the bus driver's driving history, said the two students were
>>>> transported to O'Toole by another bus and their parents were notified
>>>> of the accident.
>>>> Del
>>>>
>>>> Gardo said the bus wasn't traveling fast and stopped without leaving
>>>> skidmarks on the pavement. "The dog took a lot of the blow," Del
>>>> Gardo said.
>>>> "And
>>>>
>>>> he did not want to leave her side. He stood right with her. He was
>>>> there to save her. The chief said Stone, interviewed in her hospital
>>>> bed, was happy
>>>>
>>>> to hear that Figo was being treated and that friends are working out
>>>> the details of the dog's care while Stone recovers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:10:35 -0700
>> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
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>> One thing that I learned while in class, which was new is to actually say
>> Nova, follow forward, or follow right, or follow left. That seems to help.
>> It isn't something that I do tons of, following. They don't really guide
>> when following, because they tend to just start looking at the person
>> they're following, which is why giving them commands is important. Then
>> they still focus
>> on you, and not just the person they're following. Peace,
>> Debby and Nova
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:10:37 -0700
>> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] follow Command
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>> Then you need to tell people to be more verbal, and perhaps you might want
>> to heel her sometimes in places where it's hard to hear and go sighted
>> guide. You all might be more comfortable. I don't like to have my dogs
>> follow for long distances, so I tend not to use the follow command very
>> much, except in restaurants when being shone a table. If it's very crowded
>> and noisy, then
>> it's hard for the dogs to know who they should be following.
>> Peace, Debby and Nova
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 21:10:43 -0700
>> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>> Message-ID: <5577b8c7.a15b460a.f8d4.2d6c at mx.google.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Well, remember Danielle, her dog was also hurt and needed medical attention
>> as well. I'm just sorry that there weren't better communications, but am
>> sure things are working out okay. Figo
>> needs to heal, as well. Debby and Nova
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 03:44:27 -0400
>> From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nagdu] Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I hope this message is not off topic and is appropriate and relevant to the
>> list. I, along with a few other GDB graduates are forming an alumni chapter
>> here in Massachusetts. If you are a GDB grad living in Massachusetts, I
>> would love for you to email me if you are interested in being a part of the
>> group. You can also participate if you are interested in GDB in any way or
>> have had a GDB guide and wish to stay connected or want to learn more about
>> GDB and their guide dogs. We just want this group to be a fun way for
>> handlers to connect and have a good time socializing with one another.
>> Please feel free to pass my message along to anyone you know living in
>> Massachusetts that would benefit from this. I can be reached at
>> minh.ha927 at gmail.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Minh
>>
>> --
>> Minh Ha
>> Boston College | Lynch School of Education '16 minh.ha927 at gmail.com
>>
>> "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
>> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
>> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their
>> dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 05:40:27 -0500
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>> Message-ID: <00a201d0a369$de426090$9ac721b0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I think in this case there was no choice. But the woman would be upset
>> because she didn't know the extent of her own injuries or the dog's. It's
>> just one of life's lemons, but the good news is they will be all right.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of larry d keeler
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 10:20 PM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: larry d keeler
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>
>> Well, sometimes for medical care and such, it may be necisary to separate
>> them. It can be easier to treat them separately.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Antoine
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:28 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Danielle Antoine
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>
>> Still not happy they were separated though. She musta not known about the
>> ADA.
>>
>>> On 6/9/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> What a brave dog. I feel so badly. That poor woman and that poor dog.
>>> The woman was in shock; the dog wanted to stay with her. It actually
>>> makes me feel kind of awful, a little sick. I'm glad they will both be
>> fine.
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of William
>>> Vandervest via nagdu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 4:19 PM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: William Vandervest
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>>
>>>
>>> There Are None So Blind As Those Who Will Not See William and LD
>>> Lynerd timelord09 at att.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Terry D. Eagle via nfbmi-talk" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Terry D. Eagle" <terrydeagle at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 1:50 PM
>>> Subject: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Service dog jumps between blind owner, bus Peter D. Kramer, The
>>>> (Westchester County, N.Y.) Journal News Corrections & Clarifications:
>>>> An earlier version
>>>>
>>>> of this report misstated the dog's name. BREWSTER, N.Y. When Figo the
>>>> service dog saw an oncoming mini school bus heading for Audrey Stone,
>>>> the blind woman
>>>>
>>>> he was trained to guide, the golden retriever's protective instincts
>>>> kicked
>>>> in: He threw himself at the closest part of the vehicle he could.
>>>> Police photos
>>>>
>>>> show the result: fur stuck to the front driver's side wheel and in
>>>> the middle of Michael Neuner Avenue in New York, where the bus came
>>>> to a stop after
>>>>
>>>> striking the pair. The driver of the Brewster school bus, carrying
>>>> two kindergartners to St. Lawrence O'Toole Childhood Learning Center,
>>>> told police he
>>>>
>>>> didn't see the pair crossing the road as they made their way home at
>>>> about
>>>> 8:15 Monday morning. But Figo saw the bus coming and leapt into action.
>>>> Stone,
>>>>
>>>> 62, suffered a fractured right elbow, three broken ribs, a fractured
>>>> ankle and a cut to her head in the accident, said Brewster Police
>>>> Chief John Del Gardo.
>>>>
>>>> Figo's leg was cut down to the bone, said Paul Schwartz, who manages
>>>> the Xtra Mart gas station at the intersection and ran to the scene to
>> help.
>>>> "I
>>>> don't
>>>>
>>>> know if (the driver) thought (Stone) was going to move faster, but it
>>>> looks like the dog tried to take most of the hit for her," said
>>>> Schwartz, who lives
>>>>
>>>> in Mahopac. When Schwartz reached the crash site Stone was bleeding
>>>> from her head and complaining of hip pain. "There were 15 EMTs and
>>>> people all around
>>>>
>>>> her and the dog didn't want to leave her side," Schwartz said. "He
>>>> was flopping over to her and she didn't want him to get away from
>>>> her, either.
>>>> She kept
>>>>
>>>> screaming, 'Where's Figo? Where's Figo? Where's Figo? We kept telling
>>>> her
>>>>
>>>> he
>>>> was fine. Schwartz and one of the EMTs bandaged Figo's right leg.
>>>> Paul Schwartz,
>>>>
>>>> manager of the Xtra Mart on North Main Street in Brewster. (Photo:
>>>> Peter D.
>>>> Kramer/The Journal News) "The dog was being a good sport, really calm,"
>>>> Schwartz
>>>>
>>>> said. "He sat with me the whole time. He was limping as we put him on
>>>> a big blanket on the sidewalk and it started to rain. He let us wrap
>>>> up his leg without
>>>>
>>>> any problem. He wasn't barking or crying or yelping. But he kept
>>>> pulling toward her. After she was put on a gurney and taken away, he
>>>> stopped doing that.
>>>>
>>>> He seemed a little lost after she left. There are rules against
>>>> transporting animals in ambulances. Schwartz said Stone, who lives on
>>>> North Main Street
>>>>
>>>> not far from the accident site, was "very upset as she was getting in
>>>> the ambulance that (Figo) wasn't with her. After she left, we put him
>>>> in the (Brewster
>>>>
>>>> Fire Department) truck and they took him to the vet. A staff member
>>>> at Middlebranch Veterinary in Paterson confirmed that Figo was being
>>>> treated there
>>>>
>>>> on Monday. Brewster Police Chief Del Gardo said later that the dog
>>>> was undergoing surgery on its leg. The bus had just come down Carmel
>>>> Avenue to North
>>>>
>>>> Main Street and was turning onto Michael Neuner Drive when it struck
>>>> Stone and Figo in the unpainted crosswalk. "She got about to the
>>>> middle of the street
>>>>
>>>> before the bus, which made a right on North Main and then a left onto
>>>> Michael Neuner," Del Gardo said. "(The driver's) eyes were oc'cup'ied
>>>> on the North
>>>>
>>>> Main traffic. The driver of the mini-bus was given a summons for
>>>> failing to yield to a pedestrian. Steven Moskowitz, Brewster's
>>>> assistant superintendent
>>>>
>>>> for human resources and technology, said the driver was taken to
>>>> Partners
>>>>
>>>> in
>>>> Safety in White Plains for routine post-accident drug and alcohol
>>>> testing,
>>>>
>>>> the results of which should be available later in the week. The
>>>> driver was taken off duty while an investigation is conducted. Part
>>>> of that investigation
>>>>
>>>> will be a review of dashboard cameras in the mini-bus and on another
>>>> bus that was in the area at the time, Moskowitz said. Moskowitz, who
>>>> would not discuss
>>>>
>>>> the bus driver's driving history, said the two students were
>>>> transported to O'Toole by another bus and their parents were notified
>>>> of the accident.
>>>> Del
>>>>
>>>> Gardo said the bus wasn't traveling fast and stopped without leaving
>>>> skidmarks on the pavement. "The dog took a lot of the blow," Del
>>>> Gardo said.
>>>> "And
>>>>
>>>> he did not want to leave her side. He stood right with her. He was
>>>> there to save her. The chief said Stone, interviewed in her hospital
>>>> bed, was happy
>>>>
>>>> to hear that Figo was being treated and that friends are working out
>>>> the details of the dog's care while Stone recovers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 05:45:30 -0500
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
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>> I think they tried to reassure her. She had to be in pain and frightened and
>> a host of other things that made her react in ways she wouldn't have if she
>> had been calm. It was just an awful situation, but she's going to be all
>> right and so is the dog.
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debby Phillips
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:11 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users;
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Debby Phillips
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Fw: [nfbmi-talk] Guide Dog & Blind Person Struck
>>
>> Well, remember Danielle, her dog was also hurt and needed medical attention
>> as well. I'm just sorry that there weren't better communications, but am
>> sure things are working out okay. Figo
>> needs to heal, as well. Debby and Nova
>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:56:43 +0000
>> From: Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts
>> Message-ID:
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>> Minh,
>> I think is a great idea! I am President of the GDB Alumni Chapter for Ohio,
>> Kentucky, and Indiana and we have a great group of people. We meet once a
>> month via conference call, and try to meet in person at least once per year.
>> If you need any tips or pointers, please let me know. You can reach me
>> off-list at: Deannakay03 at gmail.com Wishing you the best with this endeavor!
>> Deanna and Mambo
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha via nagdu
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:44 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: minh ha
>> Subject: [nagdu] Forming a GDB alumni chapter in Massachusetts
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I hope this message is not off topic and is appropriate and relevant to the
>> list. I, along with a few other GDB graduates are forming an alumni chapter
>> here in Massachusetts. If you are a GDB grad living in Massachusetts, I
>> would love for you to email me if you are interested in being a part of the
>> group. You can also participate if you are interested in GDB in any way or
>> have had a GDB guide and wish to stay connected or want to learn more about
>> GDB and their guide dogs. We just want this group to be a fun way for
>> handlers to connect and have a good time socializing with one another.
>> Please feel free to pass my message along to anyone you know living in
>> Massachusetts that would benefit from this. I can be reached at
>> minh.ha927 at gmail.com
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Minh
>>
>> --
>> Minh Ha
>> Boston College | Lynch School of Education '16 minh.ha927 at gmail.com
>>
>> "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
>> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
>> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their
>> dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
>>
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