[nagdu] Flat curbs

Thu Jun 11 17:48:40 UTC 2015

Yes, the Golden Guy stops for color changes in the sidewalk too! I
thought it was very odd until one of my sighted friends suggested it.
But it makes perfect sense.
-- 
Raven
You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
have or what you do.

Naturally-reared guide dogs
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On 6/11/15, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> When I got dogs from San Rafael, where there were a lot of flat curbs, the
> dogs were very good with them.  I think they looked at the color change,
> because they would sometimes stop for a color change on the sidewalk, in
> case it was a curb.
> I think Krokus and I only encountered one flat curb in Morristown, and he
> did well with it, but it was on a route he'd been trained on.  Here, we
> have
> very few, and most of the ones we do have have the foot braille (great
> term,
> Rox), and he stops for that.
> Tracy
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower
> Pack
> via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:07 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: The Pawpower Pack
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Flat curbs
>
> Raven,
> I'm also curious about this.  My neighborhood is full of these curbs, and
> my
> dogs are trained with them from the start, so I would not expect them to
> have trouble.  I'm wondering if dogs who are trained with the standard cut
> curbs get much exposure to the blended curbs.  Also, I wonder if, in their
> dog mind, they relate stoping with a change in elevation and not with
> color,
> or contrast.  I think my dogs do like you suggest, and stop for color from
> sidewalk to street, or they will always stop on the foot braille/ trunkated
> domes.
>
> I'm just not clear on the kind of training programs put into this skill.
>
>  Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Why are  these a challenge for some guide dogs? I mean, it was a
>> challenge for the Golden Guy in the winter because everything was
>> blanketed in white. But There are a number of places around Michigan
>> with the flush curbs, and he does just fine when there's no snow.
>> I thought the dogs are trained to look for a change in color, not just
>> a change in elevation. This is why they'll stop at parking lots too,
>> not just street crossings. Am I mistaken about this?
>> --
>> Raven
>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>> have or what you do.
>>
>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>
>>> On 6/11/15, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Daryl.
>>> Some of the curbs in downtown Great Falls are totally flat, no
>>> difference between the sidewalk and the street that I could tell.  If
>>> I lived there, I'd lobby for at least putting in those rubber bumps.
>>> We have some of those here where I live, and in some cases they're
>>> pretty helpful in marking the part of the curb where the crosswalk
>>> is.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl
>>> Marie via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:11 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Daryl Marie
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Krokus's adventure
>>>
>>> Tracy,
>>>
>>> jenny loved Montana too when we were there last year. She didn't get
>>> sick, but her stool was quite runny, and we think it might have been
>>> the change in water. But sounds like he had a great time!
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "flat" curbs? If they are what I'm picturing,
>>> Jenny had the same problem in Toronto where there was little or no
>>> difference between the concrete of the sidewalk and the concrete of
>>> the road (not just a wheelchair access ramp, but NO difference); freaked
> people out...
>>>
>>> Daryl
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association
>>> of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 06:46:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [nagdu] Krokus's
>>> adventure  My husband and I just got back from a vacation, visiting
>>> my sister at our folks' old place in Montana. It was Krokus's first
>>> plane trip, but he handled it like a pro. He even used the indoor
>>> relief area at the Minneapolis airport. Poky Krokie transformed into
>>> superspeedy Krokus. He actually pulled hard, which he never does, and
>>> I had to steady him, which I've never done before. I hope he keeps
>>> some speediness, now we're back home. However, it's getting very hot,
>>> so we'll see. He had a wonderful time, sniffing around the big yard,
>>> smelling rabbits, digging in molehills, eating grass and
>>> Goddess-knows-what. I heard him pulling up grass like a cow. Or he'd
>>> just stand and sniff the wind, blowing  across the prairie. He
>>> enjoyed lying near me, hanging out in the shade, too. He threw up the
>>> first night, but I think it was just all the excitement, because he
>>> was fine after that. We both enjoyed zipping along wide, fairly
>>> uncrowded sidewalks. There are a few places around here like that,
>>> but not too many. He didn't do great with the very flat curbs, but
>>> there aren't really any around here, so he hasn't have much
>>> experience with them. Anyway, we had a great time, and he was a good
>>> boy,
> despite being a
>>> very excited puppy. Tracy
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