[nagdu] Flat curbs

Thu Jun 11 18:12:22 UTC 2015

Thank God they aren't everywhere. I think the technical term for these are bulbous curbs or bulb outs. When I first envied them,  thought I  going nuts until I told Lukas Franck about then and he had seen them. I have only seen them in Eastern Washington. 

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> On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:57 AM, The Pawpower Pack via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Debby, 
> That's interesting because most all crossings have contrast, with the sidewalk being a light grey and the road a dark grey/black.   If everything was the same color and flat it would be super hard for the dog, you are right! 
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>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Debby Phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> We have some crossings with little or no contrast, and nothing on the other side of the street for a landmark so it just looks like one very large expanse of concrete. If there is parallel traffic I can maintain my body direction, but on quiet residential streets, it is difficult. 
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>>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why are  these a challenge for some guide dogs? I mean, it was a
>>> challenge for the Golden Guy in the winter because everything was
>>> blanketed in white. But There are a number of places around Michigan
>>> with the flush curbs, and he does just fine when there's no snow.
>>> I thought the dogs are trained to look for a change in color, not just
>>> a change in elevation. This is why they'll stop at parking lots too,
>>> not just street crossings. Am I mistaken about this?
>>> -- 
>>> Raven
>>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>>> have or what you do.
>>> 
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>>>> On 6/11/15, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Daryl.
>>>> Some of the curbs in downtown Great Falls are totally flat, no difference
>>>> between the sidewalk and the street that I could tell.  If I lived there,
>>>> I'd lobby for at least putting in those rubber bumps.  We have some of
>>>> those
>>>> here where I live, and in some cases they're pretty helpful in marking the
>>>> part of the curb where the crosswalk is.
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie via
>>>> nagdu
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:11 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Daryl Marie
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Krokus's adventure
>>>> 
>>>> Tracy,
>>>> 
>>>> jenny loved Montana too when we were there last year. She didn't get sick,
>>>> but her stool was quite runny, and we think it might have been the change
>>>> in
>>>> water. But sounds like he had a great time!
>>>> 
>>>> What do you mean by "flat" curbs? If they are what I'm picturing, Jenny had
>>>> the same problem in Toronto where there was little or no difference between
>>>> the concrete of the sidewalk and the concrete of the road (not just a
>>>> wheelchair access ramp, but NO difference); freaked people out...
>>>> 
>>>> Daryl
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>>> Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 06:46:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [nagdu] Krokus's
>>>> adventure  My husband and I just got back from a vacation, visiting my
>>>> sister at our folks' old place in Montana. It was Krokus's first plane
>>>> trip,
>>>> but he handled it like a pro. He even used the indoor relief area at the
>>>> Minneapolis airport. Poky Krokie transformed into superspeedy Krokus. He
>>>> actually pulled hard, which he never does, and I had to steady him, which
>>>> I've never done before. I hope he keeps some speediness, now we're back
>>>> home. However, it's getting very hot, so we'll see. He had a wonderful
>>>> time,
>>>> sniffing around the big yard, smelling rabbits, digging in molehills,
>>>> eating
>>>> grass and Goddess-knows-what. I heard him pulling up grass like a cow. Or
>>>> he'd just stand and sniff the wind, blowing
>>>> across the prairie. He enjoyed lying near me, hanging out in the shade,
>>>> too. He threw up the first night, but I think it was just all the
>>>> excitement, because he was fine after that. We both enjoyed zipping along
>>>> wide, fairly uncrowded sidewalks. There are a few places around here like
>>>> that, but not too many. He didn't do great with the very flat curbs, but
>>>> there aren't really any around here, so he hasn't have much experience with
>>>> them. Anyway, we had a great time, and he was a good boy, despite being a
>>>> very excited puppy. Tracy   _______________________________________________
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