[nagdu] Flat curbs

[The Pawpower Pack]

Debby, 
That's interesting because most all crossings have contrast, with the sidewalk being a light grey and the road a dark grey/black.   If everything was the same color and flat it would be super hard for the dog, you are right! 

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> On Jun 11, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Debby Phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> We have some crossings with little or no contrast, and nothing on the other side of the street for a landmark so it just looks like one very large expanse of concrete. If there is parallel traffic I can maintain my body direction, but on quiet residential streets, it is difficult. 
> 
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>> On Jun 11, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Why are  these a challenge for some guide dogs? I mean, it was a
>> challenge for the Golden Guy in the winter because everything was
>> blanketed in white. But There are a number of places around Michigan
>> with the flush curbs, and he does just fine when there's no snow.
>> I thought the dogs are trained to look for a change in color, not just
>> a change in elevation. This is why they'll stop at parking lots too,
>> not just street crossings. Am I mistaken about this?
>> -- 
>> Raven
>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>> have or what you do.
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>>> On 6/11/15, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Daryl.
>>> Some of the curbs in downtown Great Falls are totally flat, no difference
>>> between the sidewalk and the street that I could tell.  If I lived there,
>>> I'd lobby for at least putting in those rubber bumps.  We have some of
>>> those
>>> here where I live, and in some cases they're pretty helpful in marking the
>>> part of the curb where the crosswalk is.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie via
>>> nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:11 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Daryl Marie
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Krokus's adventure
>>> 
>>> Tracy,
>>> 
>>> jenny loved Montana too when we were there last year. She didn't get sick,
>>> but her stool was quite runny, and we think it might have been the change
>>> in
>>> water. But sounds like he had a great time!
>>> 
>>> What do you mean by "flat" curbs? If they are what I'm picturing, Jenny had
>>> the same problem in Toronto where there was little or no difference between
>>> the concrete of the sidewalk and the concrete of the road (not just a
>>> wheelchair access ramp, but NO difference); freaked people out...
>>> 
>>> Daryl
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Carcione via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>> Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Tracy Carcione
>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 06:46:26 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [nagdu] Krokus's
>>> adventure  My husband and I just got back from a vacation, visiting my
>>> sister at our folks' old place in Montana. It was Krokus's first plane
>>> trip,
>>> but he handled it like a pro. He even used the indoor relief area at the
>>> Minneapolis airport. Poky Krokie transformed into superspeedy Krokus. He
>>> actually pulled hard, which he never does, and I had to steady him, which
>>> I've never done before. I hope he keeps some speediness, now we're back
>>> home. However, it's getting very hot, so we'll see. He had a wonderful
>>> time,
>>> sniffing around the big yard, smelling rabbits, digging in molehills,
>>> eating
>>> grass and Goddess-knows-what. I heard him pulling up grass like a cow. Or
>>> he'd just stand and sniff the wind, blowing
>>> across the prairie. He enjoyed lying near me, hanging out in the shade,
>>> too. He threw up the first night, but I think it was just all the
>>> excitement, because he was fine after that. We both enjoyed zipping along
>>> wide, fairly uncrowded sidewalks. There are a few places around here like
>>> that, but not too many. He didn't do great with the very flat curbs, but
>>> there aren't really any around here, so he hasn't have much experience with
>>> them. Anyway, we had a great time, and he was a good boy, despite being a
>>> very excited puppy. Tracy   _______________________________________________
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