[nagdu] Allergies and Dog Foods Dog

Sun Jun 14 02:01:43 UTC 2015

I agree with Raven. The more closely a dog's food mimics what he is
biologically designed to eat, the healthier he generally is. Every
company that produces a product uses advertising, it is not just
limited to the so called healthier foods. The larger the company, the
more resources they have to advertise. This does not provide them with
any credibility.

Vets usually do not have strong backgrounds in nutrition, just as
human general care physicians only have limited knowledge on human
nutrition. Although a vet's advice can be valuable, it is up to the
owner to decide what food is best for her dog. It is the owner's
responsibility to research the ingredients and there sources, not to
just feed any brand of food that they have seen an advertisement for.
Higher quality foods are generally more expensive, but this is not
necessarily so. Switching both of my dogs diets to a more expensive,
higher quality food actually saved me money in the long run, since
neither of them require frequent vet visits for chronic ear infections
any longer.

I am not implying that people who feed kibble do not care for their
dogs. My guide eats a combination of kibble and freeze-dried food and
my pet eats exclusively freeze-dried, so I understand why some people
are not willing or able to feed raw. I am saying only that everyone
has the responsibility to feed the best diet they are able to provide
for their dog.

As Julie said, Raven's posts are factual accounts of her experiences
with her own dog and contain links to research which support her
position. This is something I look for when trying to find a credible
source of information. Someone who tries to live a natural lifestyle
is not a "health nut", she is simply trying to create the best
environment for herself and her dog.

Danielle and Thai

On 6/13/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> II think people have very strong opinions on this topic, or at least it
> seems to be a very emotional one. I think there is a lot of good informayion
> shared. But food, whether we are feeding dogs or people, is a vry emotional
> topic. I can remember a lot of controversy on making your own baby food vs.
> buying the stuff in jars. It's weird how emotional the food topic gets.
> Cindy
>
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>  I hope no one considered my post critical. I value ravens posts and save
> many of them because they contain so much valuable information.
>
> I don't think anyone has extreme opinions here just food for thought and
> valued insights.
>
>
>
> JODY 🐺
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>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:39 AM, The Pawpower Pack via nagdu
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Julie,
>> Thank you for expressing this so well.
>>
>> I must say, I find it interesting that people who say they want to have a
>> reasonable discussion are throwing words around like "health nut" and
>> "normal people."
>> Also as I said in previous posts, that there is this idea of a raw diet
>> only for rich people with more money than sense.
>> Everyone has to decide what works for their situation.
>>
>>
>> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 8:20 AM, "Julie J. via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Some observations on this topic...
>>>
>>> I find it interesting that Raven has written lengthy posts with factual
>>> information from her own life and experiences.  she has included links to
>>> well known, established and accepted resources like the Whole Dog
>>> Journal. She has not once told anyone that they should feel guilty for
>>> their choices. She has encouraged conscious, intelligent decision making.
>>>
>>> Others have referred to people like Raven as nuts and everyone else as
>>> normal.  I have seen no links to any journal articles talking about the
>>> nutrition of the types of foods fed  by recommendation from their vet
>>> such as Science Diet, Iams or Purina.
>>>
>>> I would like to point out that no one can make another feel any which
>>> way. Your feelings are your own.   If you're feeling guilty over your
>>> food choices, why is that?
>>>
>>> I feed a kibble because that is what works for me.  I don't feel guilty
>>> about it.  I don't feel like I'm abusing my dogs or treating them badly.
>>> It is my choice and I take full responsibility for it.
>>>
>>> Some things about dog food that you may not know...the information for my
>>> small pet nutrition class provided to me when I was in vet tech school
>>> was provided to the college by Hills for free.  The food for the dogs in
>>> the kennels was also provided by Hills for free.   It was a pretty sweet
>>> deal for both Hills and the college.
>>>
>>> My husband, who is a farmer and used to also raise cattle, has personally
>>> sold cows to the Iams dog food factory.   He has described in detail the
>>> condition of the cows when they left the farm.  They were not able to be
>>> sold at the higher prices to the human food companies.  Many were dead,
>>> sometimes had been dead for a while, bloated in the sun, before the truck
>>> arrived to pick them up.
>>>
>>> I live in an agricultural area and am married to a farmer.  I am
>>> fortunate to know where much of my food comes from.  It's not quite as
>>> glamorous as the commercials lead you to believe.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
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