[nagdu] Dog at work...the frightened cleaning lady at Dan'shouse

Sun Jun 14 17:07:32 UTC 2015

I take my dog to my job
everyday.  I did have an
instance where a parent hinted
that their child was allergic
to Pj.  This was told to my
boss and she panicked.  I came
in and was told to put her in
the office.  Later it turned
out that the girl was not
allergic and that the parents
had no medical proof of this
fact.  I was very impressed
that many of my co-workers
gave my boss a fit about this.
They also supported me on the
issue.  Which helped a lot and
led to a dialogue with the
parents and with my boss.  
Have a blessed day.
Best regards,
Melissa R Green and Pj
Love is being committed with
out a guarantee.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
rg] On Behalf Of Rebecca
Ilniski via nagdu
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015
10:37 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the
National Association of Guide
Dog Users
Cc: Rebecca Ilniski
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog at
work...the frightened cleaning
lady at Dan'shouse

If I worked there, I would
take my dog no matter what.
That person needs some
psychological help and needs
to get over themselves. I deal
with students who are afraid
of my dog but none of them
make a big deal out of it as
they know my dog is sleeping
and will not bother with them.
My boss is allergic to dogs
and so is another coworker but
they never ask me to keep my
dog away. I've even ased out
of consideration but my boss
says that Zeb doesn't bother
her and even though she is
allergic she's a dog lover
anyway. If these people had
glasses or contacts they
should just leave them at
their desk. I'm sorry I'm not
being very compassionate but I
deal with this stuff on my
daily commute, people
screaming for no reason,
grabbing me because they are
afraid, making a scene,
throughout my sixteen years of
working these are just some
instances that I've had to
deal with. If I start saying
yes to leaving my dog, then
other things will follow. I'm
sorry but I just don't have
tolerance for this type of
thing. It would be one thing
if the person even though they
were scared accepted guide
dogs and were making an honest
effort to work on this or
differentiate between working
dogs and pets. Throughout my
guide dog lifestyle, I can
think of many instances where
people were scared, allergic,
or just didn't like animals in
general but they were still
very accepting. Ok I'm off to
climb back under my rock now
but these types of situations
just burn me up. ,

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilniski at gmail.com
twitter: zebs_mom
Facebook:
www.facebook.com/rebeccai5 
sent from my  IPhone

On Jun 14, 2015, at 8:59 AM,
Dan Weiner via nagdu
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Well you and I disagree,
Brandy, but good luck with
it.--smile.

I have just found, folks, and
I suppose we will all agree to
disagree of
course, that once I start
letting other people make
decisions about my guide
dog it's just a slippery slope
that I will slide down and it
gets worse and
worse and worse.

I mean, I have done  it like
that at one point, asked about
my dog and so
on, but remember, if you  ask
a yes or no answer you can get
"no" as an
answer very easily.

Good luck to all.

Feissty but lovable Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu
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via
nagdu
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015
12:05 AM
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National Association of Guide
Dog Users
Cc: Brandy Pinder
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog at
work...the frightened cleaning
lady at
Dan'shouse

Hi all,
I love these discussions. When
I first saw my first reaction
was what is the
problem of course leave the
dog in the office. But the
more I read and
realized that that wasn't the
issue and it makes sense. Four
instance, I am
a massage therapist. I start
off every massage with the
words she is a guy
dog are you okay with her in
the room? I have had clients
say, I am allergic
but it's fine really it's fine
or I am scared but really it's
fine. In these
situations I leave her in the
office anyway.because who can
relax if they
are worried about their
allergies or the thought the
dog will jump up and
bite them. However, when I
first started working and told
my boss I was
willing to do this he thought
I was a little crazy and said
who would be
scared of dogs just take her
in with you. So I was not
specifically told by
my boss to do this. I just
think it is respectful, and I
do bring the dog in
to do the intake but I asked
them during the intake. Maybe
just responding
that you have no problem doing
this for such and such reason,
however you
really do not want it to turn
into a regular thing.  Because
I can see where
the coworker would think, and
the boss, hey she did it this
time maybe I can
ask her and every meaning to
leave the dog, or when she
goes to get lunch in
the lounge I can ask her to
leave her dog. So maybe just
drawing the line
and saying I will do with this
time because I understand  but
this can't
happen for everything.

brandy pinder
Alumni Council -  second vice
Chairman
Guide Dog Foundation for the
Blind, IncR and America's
VetDogsR, The
Veteran's K-9 Corps IncR
Providing "Second uSight"R
since 1946

371 E. Jericho Turnpike smith
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Cell: 304-685-4499

> On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:08
AM, Daryl Marie via nagdu
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> Dan, I appreciate the
advice, I really REALLY do.
> 
> 
> In the past, I have either
brought Jenny, or left her,
depending on the
meeting. If it's first thing
in the morning, I bring her
with me. If it's an
afternoon meeting, especially
if she's asleep under my desk
(for example), I
let her sleep.  I think the
issue is more that my boss has
requested it in
general and for this meeting
in particular.
> 
> My office building is
locked, and people can only
get in with a key card
or accompanied by a staff
member, all of whom I trust
implicitly not to
monkey around with my dog
outside my presence.
> 
> If my boss were a different
person, I would be more angry
at the request.
We've had a great working
relationship for the past year
and a half, so I
feel like I've been thrown a
curve ball here. But I have
never been in
management, nor have I had to
deal with either end of this
issue...
> 
> Daryl
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Weiner via nagdu 
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'NAGDU Mailing List, the
National Association 
> of Guide Dog Users'
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Dan
Weiner 
> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net>
Sent: Sat, 13 Jun 2015
06:15:16 -0600 (MDT) 
> Subject: [nagdu] Dog at
work...the frightened cleaning
lady at Dan's 
> house  Why shouldn't you be
the difficult one? Your
co-worker actually 
> to me seems like she has
been the difficult one for the
most part. Now 
> it's your turn--lol
Obviously it's up to you how
you handle things, 
> but in Dan's humble opinion.
One he offers for free with no
warrantee, 
> once you compromise on this
thing then it just gets worse
and worse 
> and you have to make more
and more compromises. Your
boss 
> unfortunately is also
causing an issue though I know
from a management 
> point of view it's hard to
sort these things out. Your
co-worker is 
> free to bring her fear of
dogs to the meeting and you
are free to 
> bring your four-legged
mobility aid, how's that for a
solution--lol  
> Now here's an issue I had
yesterday... My Mom is getting
older and we 
> have hired a company that
sends someone to clean and do
odd jobs to 
> help my Mom out twice a
week. The regular lady who
comes is wonderful. 
> She could not come yesterday
and so the company said they
would send a 
> substitute. All right. At
nine there is a knock at the
door. Dan with 
> Parker on leash walks to the
door of our manse.*My Mom and
I live 
> together). The lady
introduces herself I answered
smiling, she started 
> to respond but then saw the
dog. "No no no dog, I'm afraid
of dogs " 
> Dan starts explaining, I
mean I can be charming...but
apparently 
> Parker must have looked at
her and she started shouting,
slammed the 
> door and ran away. She
called the office and left. So
I had to call 
> the company and complain,
because who knows what this
seemingly 
> unbalanced lady said to the
office. They said they won't
send her 
> again, though to be honest
this caused my Mom a rather
significant 
> amount of stress and I 'm
not happy. Apparently I was
told she is 
> Haitian and she is afraid of
dogs... Now the afraid of dogs
part I was probably able to
figure out on my
own, and she did have an
accent.--smile  I am
questioning this company's
professionalism, I mean for
God's sake, there are people
with just regular
pets in their houses and older
people are among them.
Supposedly these
people send CNAs Certified
Nursing what...assistants?
Anyway, in Dan's
opinion, Derril Marie, you
should bring your dog...let us
know how it goes.
I think you should ask
yourself also, "in a regular
staff meeting would I
have brought my pup" if so
then do whatever it is you
normally do, it is
just that your boss asking you
to leave the dog adds an
element to this that
you didn't have to deal with
before. I, personally would be
bringing Parker
if it were a meeting of any
length of time, I'm not always
that comfortable
with just leaving my dog at a
desk when there are other
people around whose
behavior I can't vouch for.
Dan W. -----Original
Message----- From: nagdu
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Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:36
AM To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the
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Users' Cc: Star Gazer Subject:
Re: [nagdu] Dog in
the work place?
I agree with this. I'd also
suggest the
coworker get some counceling
paid for by the employer to
deal with this
issue.  -----Original
Message----- From: nagdu
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.o
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Pack via nagdu
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015
10:28 PM To: NAGDU Mailing
List, the National
Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: The Pawpower Pack Subject:
Re: [nagdu]
Dog in the work place? Hi
Daryl, I think what I see is
the problem is your
boss telling you, or asking
you not to bring the dog.
Whether you do, or
don't, should be your choice
and yours alone. Some people
would feel fine
with that, some people, not.
Some dogs need to be with the
handler to do
their work.  I don't believe
it's anyone's place to tell
you to bring or not
bring your dog.  If the
coworker is afraid, then she
can sit across the ro
om, or if she is so afraid she
can't be in the same room with
you, she could
call into the meeting instead
of attending. But It's my
feeling that you are
being asked to do without your
mobility aid because she is
afraid from
across a room.  Wht you decide
to do is up to you, but I
think chatting with
your boss just to express your
feelings may be good just so
y'all are on the
same page.   Rox and the
kitchen Bitches: Mill'E,
Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com Sent
from my iPhone > On Jun 12,
2015, at 7:57 PM,
Daryl Marie via nagdu
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > >
Hi, guys! For those of
you I spoke to on twitter or
FB about this, > sorry for the
repeat! > I have
a bit of a sticky situation
that I would like some advice
on. > I've worked
at the same office for a year
and a half, and everyone has
been super
supportive of Jenny and I,
even as we've struggled with
Jenn's barking >
issue this spring. But there
is a coworker who is deathly
afraid of dogs.
She is so terrified that when
I started working here, she
asked that her
cubicle > be moved from beside
mine to the far side of the
office. I must
add > here that I have never
once felt disrespected by her,
that I am not a
valued part of > the team, or
that Jenny herself is
disrespected (she makes
it a point > to ask how Jenny
and I are doing). Our
company's CEO is coming
for a site visit early > next
week, and we are having a
staff meeting for
about an hour at most
(something that happens 2-3
times a year). My boss
asked that I leave Jenny at my
desk during > the meeting,
because even if
Jenny is laying down across
the room, > this particular
coworker is still
terrified of her. > I have
unintentionally left Jenny at
my desk for
moderate periods when > I
slipped in to someone's office
and we got
sidetracked chatting, so I
don't worry > about her being
alone (I figure I
can give her a bone and keep
her occupied while I am gone).
> I don't want
to act like this is the
biggest deal in the world
(which > it isn't), but I
don't want to treat this like
it's nothing, either. I
don't want > to be the
difficult one who takes the
dog into the meeting for
no > other reason than because
I can, when in fact the
meeting is only 50
feet away and she wouldn't >
be guiding me there anyway. >
Thoughts? > >
Thanks, > Daryl >
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