[nagdu] Dog at work...the frightened cleaning lady at Dan'shouse

Mon Jun 15 20:55:58 UTC 2015

I think in Brandy's situation, since as a therapist she is not on an equal
footing with her clients as two coworkers would be, it is respectful and
kind of her to inquire of her clients how they feel.
Donna & Hunter

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner via
nagdu
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:00 AM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Dan Weiner
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog at work...the frightened cleaning lady at
Dan'shouse

Well you and I disagree, Brandy, but good luck with it.--smile.

I have just found, folks, and I suppose we will all agree to disagree of
course, that once I start letting other people make decisions about my guide
dog it's just a slippery slope that I will slide down and it gets worse and
worse and worse.

I mean, I have done  it like that at one point, asked about my dog and so
on, but remember, if you  ask a yes or no answer you can get "no" as an
answer very easily.

Good luck to all.

Feissty but lovable Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandy Pinder via
nagdu
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:05 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Brandy Pinder
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog at work...the frightened cleaning lady at
Dan'shouse

Hi all,
I love these discussions. When I first saw my first reaction was what is the
problem of course leave the dog in the office. But the more I read and
realized that that wasn't the issue and it makes sense. Four instance, I am
a massage therapist. I start off every massage with the words she is a guy
dog are you okay with her in the room? I have had clients say, I am allergic
but it's fine really it's fine or I am scared but really it's fine. In these
situations I leave her in the office anyway.because who can relax if they
are worried about their allergies or the thought the dog will jump up and
bite them. However, when I first started working and told my boss I was
willing to do this he thought I was a little crazy and said who would be
scared of dogs just take her in with you. So I was not specifically told by
my boss to do this. I just think it is respectful, and I do bring the dog in
to do the intake but I asked them during the intake. Maybe just responding
that you have no problem doing this for such and such reason, however you
really do not want it to turn into a regular thing.  Because I can see where
the coworker would think, and the boss, hey she did it this time maybe I can
ask her and every meaning to leave the dog, or when she goes to get lunch in
the lounge I can ask her to leave her dog. So maybe just drawing the line
and saying I will do with this time because I understand  but this can't
happen for everything.

brandy pinder
Alumni Council -  second vice Chairman
Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, IncR and America's VetDogsR, The
Veteran's K-9 Corps IncR Providing "Second uSight"R since 1946

371 E. Jericho Turnpike smith town ny 11766
Cso: 866-282-8047
Email: brandydp at verizon.net
Cell: 304-685-4499

> On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> Dan, I appreciate the advice, I really REALLY do.
>
>
> In the past, I have either brought Jenny, or left her, depending on
> the
meeting. If it's first thing in the morning, I bring her with me. If it's an
afternoon meeting, especially if she's asleep under my desk (for example), I
let her sleep.  I think the issue is more that my boss has requested it in
general and for this meeting in particular.
>
> My office building is locked, and people can only get in with a key
> card
or accompanied by a staff member, all of whom I trust implicitly not to
monkey around with my dog outside my presence.
>
> If my boss were a different person, I would be more angry at the request.
We've had a great working relationship for the past year and a half, so I
feel like I've been thrown a curve ball here. But I have never been in
management, nor have I had to deal with either end of this issue...
>
> Daryl
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Weiner via nagdu
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association
> of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Cc: Dan Weiner
> <dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net> Sent: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 06:15:16 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: [nagdu] Dog at work...the frightened cleaning lady at Dan's
> house  Why shouldn't you be the difficult one? Your co-worker actually
> to me seems like she has been the difficult one for the most part. Now
> it's your turn--lol Obviously it's up to you how you handle things,
> but in Dan's humble opinion. One he offers for free with no warrantee,
> once you compromise on this thing then it just gets worse and worse
> and you have to make more and more compromises. Your boss
> unfortunately is also causing an issue though I know from a management
> point of view it's hard to sort these things out. Your co-worker is
> free to bring her fear of dogs to the meeting and you are free to
> bring your four-legged mobility aid, how's that for a solution--lol
> Now here's an issue I had yesterday... My Mom is getting older and we
> have hired a company that sends someone to clean and do odd jobs to
> help my Mom out twice a week. The regular lady who comes is wonderful.
> She could not come yesterday and so the company said they would send a
> substitute. All right. At nine there is a knock at the door. Dan with
> Parker on leash walks to the door of our manse.*My Mom and I live
> together). The lady introduces herself I answered smiling, she started
> to respond but then saw the dog. "No no no dog, I'm afraid of dogs "
> Dan starts explaining, I mean I can be charming...but apparently
> Parker must have looked at her and she started shouting, slammed the
> door and ran away. She called the office and left. So I had to call
> the company and complain, because who knows what this seemingly
> unbalanced lady said to the office. They said they won't send her
> again, though to be honest this caused my Mom a rather significant
> amount of stress and I 'm not happy. Apparently I was told she is
> Haitian and she is afraid of
 dogs... Now the afraid of dogs part I was probably able to figure out on my
own, and she did have an accent.--smile  I am questioning this company's
professionalism, I mean for God's sake, there are people with just regular
pets in their houses and older people are among them. Supposedly these
people send CNAs Certified Nursing what...assistants?  Anyway, in Dan's
opinion, Derril Marie, you should bring your dog...let us know how it goes.
I think you should ask yourself also, "in a regular staff meeting would I
have brought my pup" if so then do whatever it is you normally do, it is
just that your boss asking you to leave the dog adds an element to this that
you didn't have to deal with before. I, personally would be bringing Parker
if it were a meeting of any length of time, I'm not always that comfortable
with just leaving my dog at a desk when there are other people around whose
behavior I can't vouch for.  Dan W. -----Original Message----- From: nagdu
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer via nagdu Sent:
Saturday, June 13, 2015 5:36 AM To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users' Cc: Star Gazer Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog in
the work place?                I agree with this. I'd also suggest the
coworker get some counceling paid for by the employer to deal with this
issue.  -----Original Message----- From: nagdu
[mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower Pack via nagdu
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 10:28 PM To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National
Association of Guide Dog Users Cc: The Pawpower Pack Subject: Re: [nagdu]
Dog in the work place? Hi Daryl, I think what I see is the problem is your
boss telling you, or asking you not to bring the dog. Whether you do, or
don't, should be your choice and yours alone. Some people would feel fine
with that, some people, not. Some dogs need to be with the handler to do
their work.  I don't believe it's anyone's place to tell you to bring or not
bring your dog.  If the coworker is afraid, then she can sit across the ro
om, or if she is so afraid she can't be in the same room with you, she could
call into the meeting instead of attending. But It's my feeling that you are
being asked to do without your mobility aid because she is afraid from
across a room.  Wht you decide to do is up to you, but I think chatting with
your boss just to express your feelings may be good just so y'all are on the
same page.   Rox and the kitchen Bitches: Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2015, at 7:57 PM,
Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > > Hi, guys! For those of
you I spoke to on twitter or FB about this, > sorry for the repeat! > I have
a bit of a sticky situation that I would like some advice on. > I've worked
at the same office for a year and a half, and everyone has been super
supportive of Jenny and I, even as we've struggled with Jenn's barking >
issue this spring. But there is a coworker who is deathly afraid of dogs.
She is so terrified that when I started working here, she asked that her
cubicle > be moved from beside mine to the far side of the office. I must
add > here that I have never once felt disrespected by her, that I am not a
valued part of > the team, or that Jenny herself is disrespected (she makes
it a point > to ask how Jenny and I are doing). Our company's CEO is coming
for a site visit early > next week, and we are having a staff meeting for
about an hour at most (something that happens 2-3 times a year). My boss
asked that I leave Jenny at my desk during > the meeting, because even if
Jenny is laying down across the room, > this particular coworker is still
terrified of her. > I have unintentionally left Jenny at my desk for
moderate periods when > I slipped in to someone's office and we got
sidetracked chatting, so I don't worry > about her being alone (I figure I
can give her a bone and keep her occupied while I am gone). > I don't want
to act like this is the biggest deal in the world (which > it isn't), but I
don't want to treat this like it's nothing, either. I  don't want > to be
the difficult one who takes the dog into the meeting for no > other reason
than because I can, when in fact the meeting is only 50 feet away and she
wouldn't > be guiding me there anyway. > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > Daryl >
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