[nagdu] Perceptions

[Kaye Kipp]

Well, I'm a guide dog user, but I also use a cane.  So am I pitiful if I
decide I'm going to leave my dog home and use my cane?  Frankly, I don't
think anyone has the right to make such a judgment call.  People have a
right to choose.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of S L Johnson via
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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:29 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: S L Johnson
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions

Hi Dan:

Well said.  I think guide dogs are fantastic.  I am a good cane user but
hate them.  I feel much more independent and confident with a guide dog.  A
cane is just someone pitifully tap tap tapping along while a dog is total
freedom and independence.  After forty years of working guide dogs, I do not
think of any disadvantages.  Yes, there is picking up poop, dog hair and
expenses for food and vet bills but, that is nothing compared to all the dog
gives to me in return.  Stuff the useless canes in the closet and grab that
leash and harness.

Sandra and Eva

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Weiner via nagdu
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Dan Weiner
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions

Well perhaps it's a generational thing...when I got a dog I wanted to be
more independent and hoped that a dog would help me do this. Now with the
proliferation of cane training and so on the younger new dog users say
things like "Oh I can use a cane just fine and I just want to be more
efficient" or "I want to be faster".  I think guys we should look at
this...the dog must be doing something for you or you wouldn't have wanted
to get one or keep using one.

There must be something pretty damend good about a dog if despite all of the
negatives gleefully listed over the last day, we still have them and at
least I, since I can only speak for myself, enjoy using one.
Now I'm definitely over quota, keep out of trouble, guys.

Dan W.
dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net



-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray via
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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 3:13 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Cindy Ray
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions

I see your point, but I think the two things are different. Well, most of
the time they are. Often people go into training centers and they honestly
cannot do a thing. They can't read, they can't go catch a bus, they can't
write, you know. So they did get their life back. I got a dog and I was
independent when I was using a cane, yet people are convinced that now I
have the dog I am more independent. Well, it is probably true for some but
was not so for me.
I may have overdone it, too. LOL.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Weiner via
nagdu
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 2:03 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Dan Weiner
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Perceptions

Well, I've heard the same thing from folks who graduate NFB training
centers, I swear one man says,  "I got my life back". So what do we
conclude?
Perhaps of course some of it is the misconceptions about guide dogs or the
self-promotion of the guide dog training centers...but maybe also anything
that allows you a feeling of freedom that you can do what you want to do or
hope that you can might cause a similar reaction.
And I think I've written more than five messages today, so sorry if I did go
over my quota.

Dan W.



-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaye Kipp via
nagdu
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:48 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Kaye Kipp
Subject: [nagdu] Perceptions

Hi.



Unfortunately, I've actually heard some guide dog users say,, "I have my
dog; now I got my life back.  At one of my guide dog graduations, at least
one person said that.  I think this perpetuates the perception that guide
dogs are super heroes.  Sometimes they are; like the one who got between the
user and the buss, but using a guide dog is all about team work.  Without a
good handler, it goes without saying that the guide dog doesn't work well.

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