[nagdu] Any experiences with diets that work in dogs with LPE?

Fri Jun 26 18:28:30 UTC 2015

My dog has never had any serious digestive issues so I can't speak
from personal experience. Even so, I agree with Raven's suggestions. I
feed my dog both Grandma Lucy's and Great Life. Freeze-dried foods
generally have significantly fewer ingredients as well as being
relatively high in protein and nutrients. Because of this, it might be
a good fit for a dog with digestive problems. Great Life is the only
kibble I personally would consider feeding my dog. Because the kibble
contains freeze-dried ingredients, it is generally higher in nutrients
than most kibble. Combine this with the fact that there aren't any
fillers such as grain or potato and you will find that you need to
feed less kibble to your dog as compared with most other brands.
Having to process less food could reduce the strain on the digestive
system. I order both Grandma Lucy's and Great Life on chewy.com so I
don't worry about the lack of availability of these products in
stores.

Danielle, Thai, and Bonnie (GDF puppy in training)

On 6/26/15, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Donna,

> I recommend a kibble called Great Life. Find them at greatlife4pets.com.
> I recommend them because
> 1: Rather than using synthetic nutrients, they add nutrients to their
> kibble in the form of freeze dried food.
> 2: They offer grain-free and potato-free formulas. Grain and potato
> are common irritants of the GI tract.
> 3: They cook their kibble at a lower temperature than other companies.
> This is important, as most kibble is cooked at upwards of 400DGF,
> destroying all nutrients and denaturing all proteins.
>
> As an alternative to Great Life, I recommend going with a freeze-dried
> food. Freeze-dried food is still cooked, but at temperatures between
> 100-200DGF. This allows more nutrients to remain in the food, and
> requires less additives. Some brands are Grandma Lucy's and Sojo's
> Complete. You can check out more freeze dried foods on chewy.com or
> onlynaturalpets.com. Amazon might have them, too.
>
> I also recommend adding a supplement to your dogs diet to provide
> digestive support and enhance nutrient absorption.
> I strongly suggest
> l-glutamine and Liquid Aloe Vera Plus. Both these supplements are
> inexpensive, and will help support digestion and the immune system.
> More importantly, it will help repair his gut lining. It might not
> heal the IBD 100%, but it will likely reverse some of the damage that
> has been done.
> Animal-based digestive enzymes and soil-based probiotics will also
> help. The enzymes will help him break down his food and make nutrients
> more available, and the probiotics will help the good bacteria
> proliferate in his gut, boosting his immune system and killing off the
> bad bugs that are wreaking havoc in his gut.
> Twin Labs digestive enzymes and Garden of Life's Primal Defense
> Probiotics are products I have used on my dog and myself.
> You can find these products on Amazon, supersup.com, vitacost.com,
> vitaminshop.com, and in health stores as well.
> Hth.
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> `On 6/26/15, Vivianna via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I don’t have experience with the disease but, my dog also has major
>> intestinal health issues.
>> i tried lots of different diets, including raw.
>> finally, i have hit on something that has her in the best health that she
>> has ever been in.
>> i am using evo turkey and chicken food.  i also give her pet ultimates
>> probiotics.
>> hope this  gives you some ideas.
>>
>> Vivianna
>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:23 PM, Applebutter Hill via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>> Last December, after Hunter had been very sick for months, he was
>>> diagnosed
>>> with Lymphocytic-Plasmacytic Enteritis (LPE), a form of canine
>>> Inflammatory
>>> Bowel Disease (IBD). It's an autoimmune disease in which lymph and plasma
>>> cells get into the lining of the small intestines. The cause is not
>>> known,
>>> but it is associated with allergic reactions to protein and the treatment
>>> includes medications and a grain-free, novel protein diet.
>>>
>>> We took him to a veterinary gastroenterologist who followed protocol in
>>> ruling out other things, and the diagnosis was ultimately made through
>>> endoscopic biopsies of the esophagus, stomach and small intestines. No
>>> cancer was found, though endoscopic biopsies are not as reliable as
>>> laparoscopy in this regard.
>>>
>>> To this point, I've been sticking with the prescription diets from the
>>> vet,
>>> though the ingredients list makes my skin crawl. My philosophies
>>> notwithstanding, he has made quite a bit of progress, gaining back all of
>>> the 12 lbs. he lost and building back some muscle. His coat looks great
>>> again.
>>>
>>> He is now 12 years old. We live in the country, and he is on what I call
>>> modified assignment - no long walks, but he comes with us for everything
>>> we
>>> do and works fine in stores, restaurants, etc. Instead of our old 45 min
>>> walk daily, he takes me for several walks of between 10 & 30 minutes,
>>> depending on how he's feeling.
>>> He plays fetch almost every day.
>>>
>>> He still has some bowel control issues, however, and the meds for that
>>> really seem to wipe him out. We went from Royal Canin Venison and Potato
>>> to
>>> Hills' DD Salmon and potato. I think it's time to switch to a commercial
>>> formula. We're on the road too much to do a raw diet, so I'm looking for
>>> something we won't have a hard time purchasing. The prescription diets
>>> have
>>> soy, meat byproducts, some have hydrogenated protein  and the protein
>>> levels
>>> are low.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm looking at Blue Buffalo Blue Basics which has a salmon and
>>> potato formula and Taste of the Wild, which does also. I think they both
>>> have turkey formulas, and Taste of the Wild brags about using food grade
>>> meats, while Blue brags that their meat is processed in USDA inspected
>>> facilities. They are mum about their salmon, however. I will also be
>>> checking out other brands.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any experience with dogs with this condition and any
>>> recommendations for a high-quality, grain-free  commercial dry dog food?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna & Hunter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- The Heart of Applebutter Hill - a novel on a mission:
>>>
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>>>
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