[nagdu] GDF Update

Fri Mar 13 15:09:38 UTC 2015

That's a pretty good idea...think I want to work on this in the oodles
of spare time I have...LOL that's a joke actually.

On 13-Mar-15 10:04, Tracy Carcione via nagdu wrote:
> It's my understanding that a Wiki can be easily updated by a variety of
> people, so it's easier to keep up-to-date than a website.  People may update
> it with bad info, but then someone else can fix the bad info.  That's my
> understanding, anyway.
> I think it could be a good thing.  I'd like to see ownership policy, breeds
> used, length of class, students per trainer, and kind of follow-up--only
> phone, phone or in-person. And when the info ws last updated.
> Tracy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven Tolliver
> via nagdu
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 10:52 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDF Update
> 
> The problem with this idea is that someone has to keep this page up-to-date
> on an annually or semiannually basis. There is already a guide dog school
> survey that provides all sorts of information about the various programs
> throughout the US. The problem with that is that it was taken in 2006, and
> no one has cared to update it. There are more guide dog schools on the
> scene, and some guide dog schools have changed drastically since 2006.
> I think there should be an up-to-date webpage listing all the guide dog
> schools with all their contact information, as well as what areas/countries
> they accept students from. Other than that, guide dog schools should keep
> their own websites updated, and prospective students should bare the
> responsibility of figuring which program, if any, are a best fit for their
> needs.
> --
> Raven
> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or
> what you do.
> 
> Naturally-reared guide dogs
> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
> 
> 
> On 3/13/15, Marilyn tucci via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> All my dogs have come from GDF. I have had ownership right after 
>> graduation. The trainer usually asks what you want. I don't know is 
>> things have changed there as I have Anna 6 years come this May but I 
>> have friends who just graduated so I will ask them.
>> Marilyn and Anna
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:22 AM, melissa R green via nagdu wrote:
>>
>>  > I had the same experience with GDF in 2011.  I wonder if things 
>> have changed
>>> at gdf?
>>> Blessings,
>>> Melissa R. Green and Pj
>>> "Listen to God with a broken heart. He is not only the doctor who 
>>> mends it, but also the father who wipes away the tears."
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon 
>>> Dyer via nagdu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:50 AM
>>> To: Danielle Sykora; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of 
>>> Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDF Update
>>>
>>> I am also a GDF graduate. When I got my dog in 2012, the instructors 
>>> talked about both ownership and custody. People then chose which one 
>>> they wanted.
>>> As far as I know, everyone who requested ownership received it.
>>>
>>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Danielle Sykora via nagdu wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am also a graduate of GDF. I remember the ownership and custody 
>>>> policies being read and then each student choosing which one he or 
>>>> she would prefer. Beyond that, it really wasn't an issue. Some 
>>>> people didn't seem to care whether they had ownership or not while 
>>>> others did.
>>>>
>>>> Danielle and Thai
>>>>
>>>> On 3/11/15, Marsha Drenth via nagdu  wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I am a GDF grad, and although the ownership is important. I am not 
>>>>> sure if this what truely happens all of the time. For example, when 
>>>>> I was in class, the subject of ownership came up, I was very clear 
>>>>> about my
>>> intentions.
>>>>> Others in my class, didn't care, so ownership was not granted right 
>>>>> away. I don't think that GDF would hold it against anyone not to 
>>>>> grant ownership. I would hope that if a trainer, saw some issues 
>>>>> while in training, that instead of granting or not granting 
>>>>> wondership, they would recommend more training. I can honestly say, 
>>>>> that I have NEVER heard of anyone receiving a guide or service 
>>>>> animal
>>> from GDF without owndership that did not want it.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you were asking for information about different schools, I am 
>>>>> not sure you received as much about GDF as you should have. I am a 
>>>>> former grad from TSE, and although they are a good school, I could 
>>>>> not go back for a number of reasons. I am not bashing one school 
>>>>> over another. But like I said, you could be getting way way more 
>>>>> information about a school, then just from this list. I know, I 
>>>>> know, I know, the moderator *gasp* saying this. But its true. 
>>>>> Jenine Stanley from GDF is on this list, if you wouuld like further 
>>>>> information. I don't know who you spoke to at GDF, but like I said, 
>>>>> if you want ownership, and you fulfill the requirements of the 
>>>>> training program, then you will receive ownership. If you received 
>>>>> a
>>> guide from TSE, then I am sure you will. Its nothing to be worried 
>>> about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my two cents, back to my moderator rock. LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>>> email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>>> Please note that this email communication has been sent using my 
>>>>> iPhone. As such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to
>>> mitigate errors.
>>>>> Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Nimer Jaber via nagdu
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After contacting GDF, I have found out that ownership is not 
>>>>>> granted in all cases...it is up to the instructor to work with the 
>>>>>> student and decide after the end of the training whether they are 
>>>>>> providing custody or ownership.  I don't know what tools or 
>>>>>> measures they utilize for making that determination, but there you 
>>>>>> have it for anybody else that goes down this road after me.  I'm 
>>>>>> wondering whether I should put up something like a Wiki page that 
>>>>>> will compare the various school policies...this type of thing 
>>>>>> would allow the community to propose updates to it and it would 
>>>>>> try to avoid stagnancy...I'll need to consider this a bit to 
>>>>>> figure out the best avenue for going about this, but what I'm 
>>>>>> realizing is that there isn't a truly easy way to compare the 
>>>>>> various school policies that is
>>> not out of date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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