[nagdu] When keeping you safe leads into distractions

[Elise Berkley]

Hi, Darryl and listers.
Darryl, I have been second guessing Becky.  Although we have been together 
for a little over three weeks, she used to stop for no reason while we were 
walking.  I would tell her to hop-up and we would continue.  Then, she would 
stop and I would probe and not feel anything.  And, she would not hop-up for 
anything.  I, then, would reach out a little further, and there would be a 
car stuck out of a driveway, or a post.  She was right and I was wrong. 
Many apologies went to her.  I am still learning and we will make it.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Applebutter Hill via nagdu
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:49 PM
To: 'Daryl Marie' ; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide 
Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] When keeping you safe leads into distractions

Daryl,
When I got my first guide dog in '71, our instructor told us that over 90%
of the time we think the dog is wrong, we're the ones who are probably
wrong. I've done more apologizing to my guides over the years than to all
the people in my life combined. It will keep you humble, that's for sure.
The trick is to stop yourself from reacting long enough to consider that
there might be something going on you aren't aware of.

As for looking at other dogs. I wouldn't want my dog to not notice or keep
an eye on other dogs. If another dog is going to attack, better your dog see
it coming than not.
Donna & Hunter

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl Marie via
nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:50 AM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] When keeping you safe leads into distractions

Hey, Raven,
Yeah... it just seems a bit odd that distractions weren't the issue, really.
I have no problem with her looking at another dog if it is likely to
intersect our path, like she did last night... esp. since I found out later
that dog wasn't leashed.  I think I would be more concerned if she seemed
more interested in greeting the dog, rather than getting away from it.  She
was so determined to go the same direction as the other dog that I THOUGHT
she was distracted, when instead she was taking us home.

It seems that lately I have been second-guessing her when she has been doing
good work, even if (under stress) doing something that I might not otherwise
want her to do.

*sighs*
Daryl
----- Original Message ----- From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com> To:
Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National
Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org> Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2015
09:40:10 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: [nagdu] When keeping you safe leads into
distractions  Daryl, If your dog is so distracted you can't get her back on
track, wait things out if you don't feel confident taking the wheel, so to
speak. There are times when I have to do some steering if the Golden Guy is
too distracted. But if I am unsure on route or unfamiliar with the route, I
stop moving and wait the distraction out until the Golden Guy can focus
again. Good that you realized your mistake. We all goof up, especially when
distractions are around and we just want to move on from it. -- Raven You
are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you have or what
you do. Naturally-reared guide dogs
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs On 3/10/15, Daryl Marie via
nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote: > So, I have come across this twice today,
and have a sneaky suspicion it will > happen again before we get everything
all melted away, so would like some > advice, pointers, or reassurance. > >
I live in northern Canada, and we are experiencing a very fast thaw. One >
portion of our walk includes half a block of sidewalk that is buried under >
3-4 inches of water, with ice underneath. Today, both to and from work, >
Jenny has guided me around it. This morning, we walked down the street, >
parallel to another 1 or two dogs. Jenny watched them, but didn't seem >
overly interested, and we kept on walking straight, got me to the sidewalk >
safely, no problems. > > On the way home, we hit that portion of the
sidewalk, and I found out later > that another dog was approaching us from
the opposite direction. Jenny and > I walked across the street, made it up
to the opposite sidewalk, and made it > to the corner, where the other dog
and its owner - which Jenny was watching > intently - approached us. I asked
them to keep moving, which they did, but > Jenny kept turning to the right,
in the same direction they were traveling. > I told her no, we kept going
straight, and I realized that her instinct was > right: going the same
direction as the other dog took us home. > > Writing this out has been
helpful. I think the other dogs just happen to be > coincidental to the
issue of keeping us dry and safe from the ice and > sidewalk lake... but
would love any other impressions, advice, etc. > > Thanks! > > Daryl >
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