[nagdu] Relieving harness question, was Re: Pickup The Poop

[Mária Orovčíková]

     Hello list,
I've been reading this topic with interest.
The school I have my guide dog from do not teach us how to pick up after 
our guide dogs. Trainers say blind people and people with other 
disabilities  are exempted from picking up here in Slovakia.
I have read the state law regarding guide and assistance dogs very 
carefuly because I needed to have some knowledge when I did my thesis a 
few years ago. There was not a single word written about blind people 
and people with other disabilities being exempted from picking up.
There might be some local laws or documents saying about that, but each 
city/town/village might have it different.
For example when I asked the police in my town whether I  must pick up 
after my guide dog or not, they said people with disabilities were 
exempted from picking up after their dogs. When I asked them to provide 
me some documents regarding that, they were unable to give me them 
because they did not have any oficial document of that kind , I did not 
find it even on my town website.
When I went to other city to see my friend, I was told that I had to 
pick up after my dog.
The problem is I was not taught how to pick up and I had a blind friend 
and she could not help me with picking up as well, so I had to leave it 
on the grass. This happened many times.
I felt very embarrassed because I was not able to pick up after my dog 
and people shauted at me quite often for leaving it on the grass. Many 
people are quite upset about it which I understand perfectly.
I know in this situation relieving harness might be of help, but I am 
not sure if we have it here in Slovakia, so our guides are not trained 
using it.
Could you please explain how relieving harness works?
Do you put it on your dog right after you take him/herout or do you let 
your dog to go and do number one first and then put the relieving 
harness on your dog and let them do number two?
I hope I do not sound very silly, but I've never had relieving harnes, 
so cannot imagine how it works.
I know using relieving harness brings you advantages, but are there any 
disadvantages using it? If so, what these disadvantages are?
Thank you for your replies in advance.
With kind regards
Maria from Slovakia
On 25. 3. 2015 14:25, Vivianna via nagdu wrote:
> Hi.
> i find that, if you relieve the dog where it does not move while pooping, you can pick it up much better.
> try the following; first, don’t be afraid to feel your dog’s back.  this way, you know where the poop is and, if the dog is even moving.
> try curbing the dog.  this will stop them from moving but, you will have to pick up from the street.
> relieve the dog somewhere else where there is a boundary.  like, off the side of a sidewalk or driveway.  this way you can treat it the same as curbing the dog and, they will learn not to move past the boundary.
> if you really have multiple disabilities and can not pick up then, get a relieving harness but, it’s much more of a pain than just picking up.  thousands of us do it with no problems, you can too.  just practice and you will figure out the best way for you.
> hope this helps.
>
> Vivianna
>
>> On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Becky Frankeberger via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> If anyone should have the relieving harness, it is you Elise. My dad on
>> dialysis would get dizzy for no reason. So please ask GDB for one and since
>> you are close to campus, they can come out and show you how to use this
>> marvel.
>>
>> I know for a fact with my health taking a bit of a nose dive I will ask for
>> one next time. If someone knows where I can buy one now, this would be
>> amazing help for me. I gather GDB has them and offers them to grads who need
>> it. Elise you need one. Those with second disabilities need one to stay
>> independent. Becky for sure needs one and will buy one if someone tells me
>> where I can get one.
>>
>> b.butterfly at comcast.net
>>
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Becky and her Jake, dats me, toothy grin. Love Jake
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 8:53 PM
>> To: National Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Pickup The Poop
>>
>> Hey, everyone.  I have been taking Becky to relieve herself in the alley
>> behind my apartment building.  It is a rather large area and I give her area
>> to go.  They taught me how to pick up behind her, but I guess I have been
>> missing some of it.  Someone mentioned it to me (not a big deal), but they
>> did not want anyone else to mention it.  Does anyone have suggestions on how
>> to make sure I am picking up everything from her?  Thanks.
>> Elise and Becky
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