[nagdu] it's illegal to use a crate or tie down?

[Pam]

ya i agree. it can b hard to find somewhere safe to take a dog for a free run. i do think it is great how they have proper dog parks in the US too. i wish they had them here.

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> On 26 Mar 2015, at 17:02, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I think crates are cruel.  They had them at Pilot Dogs but, I didn't make 
> Eva use it.  It was too small for her to stretch out and I like my dog next 
> to me so I can reach down and pet her.  I also don't like the 
> short-tie-downs offered by the guide dog schools.  They are so short the 
> poor dog is almost strangled with no room to move.  I've had guide dogs for 
> almost 40 years and have never used them.  All my dogs had complete freedom 
> in my home and I've never had problems in hotel rooms.  The only time I've 
> restricted my dog is if I'm sharing a room with another guide dog and we're 
> trying to keep them from playing too much.  Then I use at least a four-foot 
> leash so my dog has plenty of room to move around.  I think it is a great 
> idea to teach your dog to free-run.  This will ensure they will come back to 
> you if they ever get loose.  It also gives the dog the chance to get some 
> exercise.  I don't have a dog park near me and there is a leash law so, I 
> have a thirty-foot tie-out in my back yard.  That gives Eva total access to 
> my half of the property of my duplex.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Vivianna via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:25 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] it's illegal to use a crate or tiedown?
> 
> wow!  really!
> is this really true?
> so, what do you do if your dog is not trustworthy loose in your home?  or, 
> if you are in a hotel room?
> i wonâ?Tt even get into the reasons that i feel a crate is a fine thing.
> 
> Vivianna
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Leye-Shprintse Ã-berg via nagdu 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> BS'D
>> 
>> Sadly, I think some people have been a bit too prejudiced in this topic. I 
>> think that we need to remember that Europe and the Americas have different 
>> cultures; what you see as normal in your own country could be illegal in 
>> another one. As an example, it looks like it's normal to tiedown and crate 
>> your guide dogs in the States and Canada; in Sweden, it's illegal and I 
>> first heard about it when I talked to some American handlers. I'd never do 
>> it myself, but I don't juge you who do it.
>> 
>> Now to the question. As Mária, Pam and Lisa, guide dog handlers aren't 
>> taught to pick up after their dogs in Sweden either; we're exepted by the 
>> law. Personally, I learned to pick up after my dog with help of a Canadian 
>> guide dog handler and my twin sister. As I see it, I think that we'll be 
>> taught how to do it, but since I'm in the minority of guide dog handlers 
>> who pick up after my dog, I think the fight is already lost. We've more 
>> important things to change, I think. Okay?
>> 
>> And Mária, our dogs are only taught to relieêe on grass. Oh Lisa, my dog 
>> was also a bush relieving dog. She always looked for the bushes and 
>> dragged me there to relieve herself. It took some weeks for her to feel 
>> confident on plain grass. Now, I'm teaching her to relieve on concrete. 
>> She's so stuborn, but I'll win this fight also. *LOL*
>> 
>> LeSholom,
>> Leye-Shprintse and Hera <3
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