[nagdu] Free running

John Sanders starmy22 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 26 20:21:16 UTC 2015


Hi,
I have a question: I live in an apartment complex.
The hallway is not very big.
I'm thinking about doing some off-leash recall with Mollie.
Is that something I would need to talk with the apartment complex about?
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders


-----Original Message----- 
From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:54 PM
To: Lisa ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Free running

I started working on off-leash recall at the school, in my room. When
I got home, I continued working on it in the house during routine
obedience sessions. Then I took it out into the yard. I did off-leash
obedience with and without planned distractions. It was definitely
important to me. I did not ever want to be one of those people
screaming their heads off for their dog to come back. I wanted to
ensure that my dog would listen to me, whether he was clipped to a
leash or not.
-- 
Raven
You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
have or what you do.

Naturally-reared guide dogs
https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs

On 3/26/15, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello Tami,
>
> thanks for your detailed e-mail. That's very interesting.
>
> I find myself wishing for a nice big and fenced garden often because 
> Taylor
>
> could run around and get exercise there very easily. But since we live in 
> an
>
> apartment, that's no option. But I know quiet places far away from busy
> roads where I can let Taylor free run and I'm not very anxious he'd not 
> come
>
> back. After my training was over, I practiced this with a sighted friend. 
> So
>
> I got alot of info what the dog was doing. At first, I also had the best
> treats in the world with me that he'd get when he'd come back after my
> recall. Today, he does not need those anymore, he loves to get back. :-)
> But I can understand the problem to find a safe place to free run the dog.
> In summer, it was not fun at all here. So many people around. That was 
> great
>
> in fall and winter. There were no people at all and I could always observe
> Taylor, knew what he did and everything was fine.
>
> Lisa
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tami Jarvis" <tami at poodlemutt.com>
> To: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>; "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Free running
>
>
>> Lisa,
>>
>> The American training programs are dead set against free running and thus
>>
>> do not train their dogs to run free safely. Nor do they train handlers 
>> how
>>
>> to safely manage their dogs off leash. As a result, if a guide dog does
>> find itself loose in the world, the result is frequently tragic.
>>
>> As an owner-trainer, I let my dogs run free and consider off leash
>> training an essential part of their development from puppyhood on. I also
>>
>> like for them to learn to socialize with as many types of dogs as 
>> possible
>>
>> so that they can be "dog smart" in their work. I have certain safety
>> procedures I follow in considering whether and when to let my dog off
>> leash, though I consider training to be the key to mitigating risk.
>>
>> We also let our dogs have the run of the house and expect them to follow
>> the rules, at least when they are grown. Loki, the pup, still spends some
>>
>> time in his crate now and then, but I prefer to work with him as much as
>> possible. He's spent a couple of brief periods free in the house with the
>>
>> other dogs when everybody's gone and has done fine.
>>
>> I think there are benefits to the free running and socialization and all,
>>
>> but the programs here disagree. Frankly, if I got a dog from a program, I
>>
>> would be more cautious even if I did train it for off leash running, 
>> since
>>
>> it would almost certainly not have that early learning my dogs get as
>> puppies.
>>
>> Tami
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/26/2015 09:40 AM, Lisa via nagdu wrote:
>>> Doesn't everybody let their dog free run from time to time? We do it
>>> exactly as you in Sweden. Taylor loves to get back to me and be praised
>>> like crazy then. And of course we don't do it across the highway or
>>> anything but actually, I don't think I have to mention this.
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leye-Shprintse Öberg via nagdu"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:34 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Free running (was: Pickup The Poop)
>>>
>>>
>>>> BS'D
>>>>
>>>> Viviana,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, our dogs are allowed to free run. It's common for pet dogs too.
>>>> The dogs have a 'play collar" (a collar with a bell) and, of course,
>>>> we're training recall with them. If you think that guide dog handlers
>>>> free run their dogs in the busy city, you need to rethink. We're, of
>>>> course, told wish places are safe. If you work in the city, you leash
>>>> relieve your dog, if you don't have a safe park close by. When I free
>>>> run my dog, it's like a game. I let her off, call her back and praise
>>>> before she's allowed to take off again. Only because we free run our
>>>> dogs in Europe don't mean that we don't love and care for them.
>>>>
>>>> LeSholom,
>>>> Leye-Shprintse and Hera, who loves a nice run; and especially, mommy's
>>>> candy! <3
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