[nagdu] Free running

Thu Mar 26 21:48:48 UTC 2015

I also started working on offleash recall with my dog while in
training. He already knew to return to me both using the "come"
command and a whistle. We practiced in our room, in a long hallway,
and in an enclosure outside. He is now very reliable while indoors; I
can even call him to me while he is in the middle of playing with
another dog. Now that the snow has melted, I intend to practice more
outside.

Danielle and Thai

On 3/26/15, John Sanders via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a question: I live in an apartment complex.
> The hallway is not very big.
> I'm thinking about doing some off-leash recall with Mollie.
> Is that something I would need to talk with the apartment complex about?
> I hope to hear from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:54 PM
> To: Lisa ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Free running
>
> I started working on off-leash recall at the school, in my room. When
> I got home, I continued working on it in the house during routine
> obedience sessions. Then I took it out into the yard. I did off-leash
> obedience with and without planned distractions. It was definitely
> important to me. I did not ever want to be one of those people
> screaming their heads off for their dog to come back. I wanted to
> ensure that my dog would listen to me, whether he was clipped to a
> leash or not.
> --
> Raven
> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
> have or what you do.
>
> Naturally-reared guide dogs
> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>
> On 3/26/15, Lisa via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello Tami,
>>
>> thanks for your detailed e-mail. That's very interesting.
>>
>> I find myself wishing for a nice big and fenced garden often because
>> Taylor
>>
>> could run around and get exercise there very easily. But since we live in
>>
>> an
>>
>> apartment, that's no option. But I know quiet places far away from busy
>> roads where I can let Taylor free run and I'm not very anxious he'd not
>> come
>>
>> back. After my training was over, I practiced this with a sighted friend.
>>
>> So
>>
>> I got alot of info what the dog was doing. At first, I also had the best
>> treats in the world with me that he'd get when he'd come back after my
>> recall. Today, he does not need those anymore, he loves to get back. :-)
>> But I can understand the problem to find a safe place to free run the
>> dog.
>> In summer, it was not fun at all here. So many people around. That was
>> great
>>
>> in fall and winter. There were no people at all and I could always
>> observe
>> Taylor, knew what he did and everything was fine.
>>
>> Lisa
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tami Jarvis" <tami at poodlemutt.com>
>> To: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>; "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Free running
>>
>>
>>> Lisa,
>>>
>>> The American training programs are dead set against free running and
>>> thus
>>>
>>> do not train their dogs to run free safely. Nor do they train handlers
>>> how
>>>
>>> to safely manage their dogs off leash. As a result, if a guide dog does
>>> find itself loose in the world, the result is frequently tragic.
>>>
>>> As an owner-trainer, I let my dogs run free and consider off leash
>>> training an essential part of their development from puppyhood on. I
>>> also
>>>
>>> like for them to learn to socialize with as many types of dogs as
>>> possible
>>>
>>> so that they can be "dog smart" in their work. I have certain safety
>>> procedures I follow in considering whether and when to let my dog off
>>> leash, though I consider training to be the key to mitigating risk.
>>>
>>> We also let our dogs have the run of the house and expect them to follow
>>> the rules, at least when they are grown. Loki, the pup, still spends
>>> some
>>>
>>> time in his crate now and then, but I prefer to work with him as much as
>>> possible. He's spent a couple of brief periods free in the house with
>>> the
>>>
>>> other dogs when everybody's gone and has done fine.
>>>
>>> I think there are benefits to the free running and socialization and
>>> all,
>>>
>>> but the programs here disagree. Frankly, if I got a dog from a program,
>>> I
>>>
>>> would be more cautious even if I did train it for off leash running,
>>> since
>>>
>>> it would almost certainly not have that early learning my dogs get as
>>> puppies.
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/26/2015 09:40 AM, Lisa via nagdu wrote:
>>>> Doesn't everybody let their dog free run from time to time? We do it
>>>> exactly as you in Sweden. Taylor loves to get back to me and be praised
>>>> like crazy then. And of course we don't do it across the highway or
>>>> anything but actually, I don't think I have to mention this.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leye-Shprintse Öberg via nagdu"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:34 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Free running (was: Pickup The Poop)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BS'D
>>>>>
>>>>> Viviana,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, our dogs are allowed to free run. It's common for pet dogs too.
>>>>> The dogs have a 'play collar" (a collar with a bell) and, of course,
>>>>> we're training recall with them. If you think that guide dog handlers
>>>>> free run their dogs in the busy city, you need to rethink. We're, of
>>>>> course, told wish places are safe. If you work in the city, you leash
>>>>> relieve your dog, if you don't have a safe park close by. When I free
>>>>> run my dog, it's like a game. I let her off, call her back and praise
>>>>> before she's allowed to take off again. Only because we free run our
>>>>> dogs in Europe don't mean that we don't love and care for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> LeSholom,
>>>>> Leye-Shprintse and Hera, who loves a nice run; and especially, mommy's
>>>>> candy! <3
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