[nagdu] update

connie johnson consuelo.johnson050 at gmail.com
Wed May 27 09:19:34 UTC 2015


yes you are correct about the chest pad.  I  got my last dog at pilot dogs 
inc. in august of 2008, and now she is getting ready to turn eleven year old 
.
consuelo , and zoey
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S L Johnson via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Cc: "S L Johnson" <SLJohnson25 at comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] update


> Buddy:
>
> Your description is correct.  The chest snap in pad is either plain 
> leather or, with the spikes.    The spikes are a single line of 7 thin 
> plastic flat top spikes about 1 inch long.The spikes are used to 
> discourage the dog from pulling too hard.   When I got Eva a year ago they 
> gave me the spike strip but, I have never had to use it.
>
> To some it may sound cruel but, the trainers assure me that it is not.  If 
> you don't agree, then just take them home and don't use them.  Eva's my 
> first dog from Pilot so, I really don't have an opinion for or against 
> using the spike strip.  Believe me, in the past 40 years I've worked a few 
> very hard pulling dogs and, I might have used the spike strip  if I had 
> one. There is nothing worse than trying to work a dog that has such a hard 
> pull. I am sure these little bits of plastic can't possibly hurt some of 
> those big strong muscular dogs.  I also know they advise students to only 
> use them if all other methods of controlling the pull have not worked.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Buddy Brannan via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:29 PM
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> Cc: Buddy Brannan
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] update
>
> A Pilot grad can correct me if I'm wrong, but.
>
> Pilot's harnesses have a feature that, to my knowledge, no other guide dog 
> school's equipment has. (Well, the leashes do, too...the leashes are a bit 
> longer than most, and can be made into an impromptu muzzle.) Anyway, there 
> are two snaps on the chest strap. Normally, a piece of leather is snapped 
> in between them, straight across. However, one can take that out and snap 
> into its place a set of blunt prongs. I think the purpose of these is to 
> discourage the dog from excessive/too hard of a pull. I believe these were 
> issued at one time to all grads as a matter of course, but I don't think 
> they are anymore, except in specific circumstances and if a trainer thinks 
> a dog needs them very specifically. Pilot grads, please correct any 
> factual errors on my part, but I *think* this is what Abby's talking 
> about.
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: 814-860-3194
> Mobile: 814-431-0962
> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>
>
>
>
>> On May 26, 2015, at 1:23 PM, Shannon Dyer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Abby,
>>
>> Whatâ?Ts a chest pad? Iâ?Tve never heard of it.
>>
>> Good luck with everything. Waiting can be torture.
>>
>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>> On May 26, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Abigail Bolling via nagdu 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> Well, I have a friend with me now, and we went on a walk on Saturday. A 
>>> pretty long walkâ?¦ (about 3 miles to be exact.)
>>> She saw first hand my problems with Jada.
>>> An update about Leader. They want to evaluate Jada. I have called and 
>>> told them that taking Jada to re-evaluate and return her to me (once 
>>> again) will not be a good idea. Theyâ?Tve done this once with Her and 
>>> she did not trust me afterward. I had to restart the bonding process, 
>>> and I canâ?Tt afford to do that right now. So they are sending a trainer 
>>> out to me next week.
>>> I have spoken with Pilot and they are willing to accept me after I have 
>>> a physical done. I have told pilot that I would attend their school as 
>>> long as I would not be required to use the chest pads, which I do not 
>>> agree with at all, and a shock collar will never be put on my dog. The 
>>> student services rep I spoke with said those wouldnâ?Tt be a problem, so 
>>> weâ?Tll see what happens. I am really hoping Leader will kind of, to put 
>>> it bluntly, step it up a notch because I canâ?Tt afford to wait and mess 
>>> around.
>>> So anyway, Iâ?Tm a little frustrated, Jadaâ?Ts tired but she still wants 
>>> to work and becomes a holy terror on four paws, so I work her or else my 
>>> apartment will get destroyed. But I can personally say, I donâ?Tt like 
>>> this waiting around. Anyway,
>>> Another thing with Jada, I found another bump on her leg. About a year 
>>> and a half or so ago, Jada had to have surgery for a fatty tumor in her 
>>> legâ?¦ Well, it looks like the bump is back. Itâ?Ts very small and 
>>> oblong, but itâ?Ts harder than the last one. It is just above her 
>>> scarred area, so it may just be her muscle knotted up from the surgery. 
>>> To get the last tumor out of her leg, the vet had to cut and go under 
>>> her muscle, so it could be that too. But all I see is a bump that 
>>> isnâ?Tt supposed to be there, and wasnâ?Tt there a week ago.
>>>
>>> Anyway, those are the updates as of now. Iâ?Tll let yâ?Tall know if 
>>> there are any other developments.
>>>
>>> Abby and Princess Jada.
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