[nagdu] update

[Cindy Ray]

Most of this type of equipment is designed to help with discipline and not
to do harm I think. My dd used a spike collar with a dog she was walking,
and it did settle it down so it wouldn't try to drag her. It didn't damage
the dog, nor did it damage the relationship. Of course that is not a guide,
but for me that isn't part of the issue. I am still not sure I'd like to use
one though.
Cindy


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Passle Helminski
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:29 AM
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Cc: Passle Helminski
Subject: Re: [nagdu] update

Hi,

Pilot spikes are hollow and not sharp. They do not dig into the skin and do
not go all of the way across the chest.  A mother dog correcting a pup would
cause more discomfort than the spikes.

Fact and not an opinion because I briefly used them when I had work done on
both of my hands.

Passle

On May 27, 2015, at 9:16 AM, Abigail Bolling via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
> Nimer I think you're correct about the chest pads being used when a
handler has been given a dog that is too much for them to reasonably handle.
At least, that is what I've seen and that is my humble opinion. But, on the
other side, it's not comfortable for the dog. A lot of times, I have seen
dogs with sores on their chest from where the spikes have done into their
skin. This I feel is a very inhumane way to treat an animal, especially when
you're expecting the animal to help you.
> Again, this is just my opinion.
> Abigail Bolling 
> 
> Wright State University-2019: Social Work
> 
> "Keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the
music play." (Julie Anderson Diamond)
> 


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