[nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles

[Elise Berkley]

Hello, Michael.  I totally agree with you.  When I cannot get to her (even 
though she will be close to me still), the whole idea of not having that 
total control bothers me.  I am so glad that this is still my choice to tie 
her down or not.  I choose not.
Elise and Becky

-----Original Message----- 
From: Michael Hingson via nagdu
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 2:50 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Cc: Michael Hingson
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles

Even so, when the dog is tied down away from you control by you of your 
guide dog is lost. This is not a good idea.


Mike Hingson

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise Berkley via 
nagdu
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 2:13 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Elise Berkley <bravaegf at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles

Hey, everyone.  I got further info on this.  Another driver explained it 
better to me.  The tie down is not connected to the neck.  But, rather, it 
is connected some kind of a way to the harness.  I still have not seen how 
it works, and I  found out I have a choice to do this or not.  It is not a 
requirement.
Elise and Becky

-----Original Message-----
From: Jody Ianuzzi via nagdu
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 9:55 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Cc: Jody Ianuzzi
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles

There is no way I would tether my dog by his collar in a moving vehicle 
because if the vehicle stop quickly he could break his neck.

JODY 🐺
thunderwalker321 at gmail.com

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes."
DOCTOR WHO (Tom Baker)



> On Oct 2, 2015, at 11:47 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> I think this is useful for people who cannot secure their dogs with
> their bodies on public transportation. More specifically, we as blind
> people have ways of positioning our dogs so that they are secured
> between our legs on buses. People in wheelchairs are typically unable
> to secure their dogs using their legs, so a tie down might be
> convenient for such an individual. If you have limited mobility in any
> way, this might be useful.
> --
> Raven
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> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
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>> On 10/2/15, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I had really not thought of it before, but I could see some
>> advantages as long as I can be close to the dog. You wear seatbelts.
>> However, I don’t know myself how easily you could get the things off.
>> xo
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 9:26 PM, larry d keeler via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Never had an issue where it would be required. Interesting concept
>>> though!
>>> Personally, I don't really like it much.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elise
>>> Berkley via nagdu
>>> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 9:56 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Elise Berkley
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>>>
>>> They told me she would still be close enough for me to touch.  It
>>> just makes me nervous when I think of the possibilities of something
>>> happening and I do not know how to unattach the tie-down.
>>> Elise and Becky
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Cindy Ray via nagdu
>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 6:43 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: Cindy Ray
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tie-Downs for our Guides on Access Shuttles
>>>
>>> How close would you be sitting to her if she were tied down? I think
>>> it is definitely your decision, but I’m not completely sure.
>>> Cindy Lou Ray
>>> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>
>>>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 8:36 PM, Elise Berkley via nagdu
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, everyone.  I wanted to get your thoughts on this.
>>>> Becky and I were going to school on the Access shuttle and the
>>>> driver asked me if I wanted Becky tied down.  I did not know what
>>>> he was talking about and I told him no.  Becky went up the ramp and
>>>> sat quietly the whole trip (about 10 minutes.)
>>>>
>>>> I found out that, for the dog’s safety and so they cannot move
>>>> around, they have these new gadgets.  You hook a shorter leash in a
>>>> ring and then the other end gets snapped down where they tie down
>>>> the wheelchairs.  I really do not like this idea of her being tied
>>>> down at all.  She is behaved enough not to move around.  I What if
>>>> we get in an accident, and I cannot get my dog loose.  Maybe they
>>>> are trying to do a good thing, and maybe I do not understand fully.
>>>> Let Becky and I know what you think.
>>>> Elise and Becky (San Diego bound)
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